Ozempic, GLP-1 and other modern diabetes / weight loss medications

[ISUCyclones2015]

Anyone on them? Know friends on them?

I do think these are crazy (in a good way) drugs that has the power to change the world and fight an epidemic of diabetes and obesity, especially in the US.

Pricing is a concern of course but with more and more companies getting into the space, the competition will bring prices down much like Blood Pressure and Blood thinner medications did over the years.

If I ever qualify, I’d definitely consider it. My insurance has a bunch of hoops for those without diabetes.

Maybe one day nearly everyone just does a once a year injection to help regulate blood sugar.

 

[TABack]

It's just a bandaid to the actually problem with obesity. Fix your diet and do like 2 hours of physical work out a week, that simple. It is more healthy and sustainable solution than taking a drug with **** ton of side effects and will you will certainly revert back to same weight when getting off because it doesn't address the issue of why you are fat in the first place.

 

[alarson]

It's just a bandaid to the actually problem with obesity. Fix your diet and do like 2 hours of physical work out a week, that simple.

That's exactly what this drug helps people do. Many who take it find it reduces food noise and makes it easier for them to control their diets.

It is more healthy and sustainable solution than taking a drug with **** ton of side effects and will you will certainly revert back to same weight when getting off because it doesn't address the issue of why you are fat in the first place.

A lot of drugs don't 'address the issue'. A lot of issues are lifelong, and weight management is likely one of those things for many.

Yeah, ultimately one will revert if their food intake returns to normal. But this is a drug that is ultimately cheap to manufacture, the drug makers are just gouging with it right now. If someone ends up on it for life to help them maintain, is that any worse than being on any number of drugs that they may end up on if they are unable to bring their weight down?

 

[TABack]

That's exactly what this drug helps people do. Many who take it find it reduces food noise and makes it easier for them to control their diets.



A lot of drugs don't 'address the issue'. A lot of issues are lifelong, and weight management is likely one of those things for many.

Yeah, ultimately one will revert if their food intake returns to normal. But this is a drug that is ultimately cheap to manufacture, the drug makers are just gouging with it right now. If someone ends up on it for life to help them maintain, is that any worse than being on any number of drugs that they may end up on if they are unable to bring their weight down?

Many drugs people are taking right now they would not have to do so if they had a proper diet and exercise. There is countless stories out there of people no longer need blood pressure meds and etc after fixing that.

Look in today's society, people just want the easy road. If that's popping meds every single day of your life than more power to you I guess. And the side effects can be no joke, it's not a magic fix.

 

[alarson]

Many drugs people are taking right now they would not have to do so if they had a proper diet and exercise. There is countless stories out there of people no longer need blood pressure meds and etc after fixing that.

Look in today's society, people just want the easy road. If that's popping meds every single day of your life than more power to you I guess.

You aren't morally superior just because you have an easier time doing that than others.

You're just ignorant on the science of all of this. But there's a lot of that going around.

 

[Gorm]

I saw this the other day...

Sharon Osbourne Say She Lost 'Too Much' Weight On Ozempic—And Now Has A New Goal In Mind

"I think I went too far."

www.womenshealthmag.com

She apparently lost too much weight and now can't gain any back.

 

[AgronAlum]

I’ve been thinking of starting this same thread for a while now. I’ve cut my food intake over the last few years but my food allergies restrict a lot of the healthy foods that I used to enjoy (all fruit plus some others). I still eat ****** foods, just less of it.

I’ve managed to maintain the same weight for years but can’t get down (currently 6’6” ~315). I’m not mobile anymore at work but very mobile at home chasing around 3 active kids. I very rarely sit from the time I get home until I go to bed late at night.

 

[TABack]

You aren't morally superior just because you have an easier time doing that than others.

You're just ignorant on the science of all of this. But there's a lot of that going around.

I don't have an easier time, I make a point to stay in shape. I don't drink sugar bs drinks like pop and energy drinks. I don't eat fast food multiple times a week. Walk about 100k steps a week and do light workouts/stretch 3 times a week. Perfectly average weight for my age and height. Drug free

 

[alarson]

I don't have an easier time, I make a point to stay in shape. I don't drink sugar bs drinks like pop and energy drinks. I don't eat fast food multiple times a week. Walk about 100k steps a week and do light workouts/stretch 3 times a week. Perfectly average weight for my age and height.

That means you do have an easier time, whether you choose to acknowledge that reality or not.

 

[cyclonestunners]

It's just a bandaid to the actually problem with obesity. Fix your diet and do like 2 hours of physical work out a week, that simple. It is more healthy and sustainable solution than taking a drug with **** ton of side effects and will you will certainly revert back to same weight when getting off because it doesn't address the issue of why you are fat in the first place.

This is really stupid. There are people who can't lose weight effectively due to metabolism and other genetic issues.

Saying "just workout and eat better!" Is really short sighted and doesn't understand the real problem.

Over 95% of overweight people have gained back the weight after losing it. This is more than"just be better"

 

[cyclonestunners]

Anyone on them? Know friends on them?

I do think these are crazy (in a good way) drugs that has the power to change the world and fight an epidemic of diabetes and obesity, especially in the US.

Pricing is a concern of course but with more and more companies getting into the space, the competition will bring prices down much like Blood Pressure and Blood thinner medications did over the years.

If I ever qualify, I’d definitely consider it. My insurance has a bunch of hoops for those without diabetes.

Maybe one day nearly everyone just does a once a year injection to help regulate blood sugar.

I find it like my anxiety meds. After starting it, I thought "oh... is this how normal people feel?" I now don't think about food all the time. I feel satiated when I eat in a way I never did before. Down 40 pounds. Most I've ever lost.

 

[cyclonestunners]

I’ve been thinking of starting this same thread for a while now. I’ve cut my food intake over the last few years but my food allergies restrict a lot of the healthy foods that I used to enjoy (all fruit plus some others). I still eat ****** foods, just less of it.

I’ve managed to maintain the same weight for years but can’t get down (currently 6’6” ~315). I’m not mobile anymore at work but very mobile at home chasing around 3 active kids. I very rarely sit from the time I get home until I go to bed late at night.

Do it!! We'll worth it

 

[Daserop]

It's just a bandaid to the actually problem with obesity. Fix your diet and do like 2 hours of physical work out a week, that simple. It is more healthy and sustainable solution than taking a drug with **** ton of side effects and will you will certainly revert back to same weight when getting off because it doesn't address the issue of why you are fat in the first place.

Agreed. It requires a lifestyle change.

 

[CloniesForLife]

It's just a bandaid to the actually problem with obesity. Fix your diet and do like 2 hours of physical work out a week, that simple. It is more healthy and sustainable solution than taking a drug with **** ton of side effects and will you will certainly revert back to same weight when getting off because it doesn't address the issue of why you are fat in the first place.

That's easier said than done. These drugs help people down the road of being a healthier weight and that can have a powerful impact on people changing habits.

From what I've seen there are some concerns around muscle loss so make sure you lift while on this and I believe that when off the drug people can regain some weight so that will be interesting to monitor.

Overall if this gets people to a healthy weight and reduces the downstream effects of that it's a huge success.

 

[Pope]

This is really stupid. There are people who can't lose weight effectively due to metabolism and other genetic issues.

Saying "just workout and eat better!" Is really short sighted and doesn't understand the real problem.

Over 95% of overweight people have gained back the weight after losing it. This is more than"just be better"

Agree.

Sure, there are folks whose obesity is primarily due to their horrible diet and lack of exercise. But there is a large percentage of obese persons who simply got a raw deal when it came to genetics.

We have all known overweight people who've worked extremely hard all their lives to keep their weight under control by exercising and dieting, but they are constantly fighting a losing battle due to the genes they inherited through no fault of their own.

Rather than being critical of these folks, I have great sympathy and I'm thankful that I did not inherit those genetics.

 

[HititHard]

You aren't morally superior just because you have an easier time doing that than others.

You're just ignorant on the science of all of this. But there's a lot of that going around.

The science isn’t hard to understand. Burn more calories than you consume.
Drugs or fad diets don’t change the equation.

 

[chuckd4735]

I don't have an easier time, I make a point to stay in shape. I don't drink sugar bs drinks like pop and energy drinks. I don't eat fast food multiple times a week. Walk about 100k steps a week and do light workouts/stretch 3 times a week. Perfectly average weight for my age and height. Drug free

Great that it works for you relatively easy, but unfortunately everybody is different. Could be mental health issues. Could be genetics. Could be their day to day lives make it harder to eat healthy and find time to work out.

 

[Pope]

What percentage of the population would not be able to lose weight due to genetics after improving their diet and increasing exercise?

Good Lord, 100% of the population can lose weight if they burn more calories than they consume.

However, factors for which we have little control (e.g., genetics, metabolism, hormonal imbalances, etc.) limit the amount of weight we can easily lose.

We all know skinny people who eat like crap and exercise very little, and we know overweight people who bust their ass at the gym and are constantly dieting.

 

[jmb]

Many drugs people are taking right now they would not have to do so if they had a proper diet and exercise. There is countless stories out there of people no longer need blood pressure meds and etc after fixing that.

Look in today's society, people just want the easy road. If that's popping meds every single day of your life than more power to you I guess. And the side effects can be no joke, it's not a magic fix.

FFS

 

[chuckd4735]

It's just a bandaid to the actually problem with obesity. Fix your diet and do like 2 hours of physical work out a week, that simple. It is more healthy and sustainable solution than taking a drug with **** ton of side effects and will you will certainly revert back to same weight when getting off because it doesn't address the issue of why you are fat in the first place.

I'm a tad over weight and have been for a few years. I've changed my diet to where I'm under 1500 calories and around 75 carbs a day. Work out for an hour at least once every 2 days, and 5x a week.

I'm 5'9"and stuck at 215-220 and can't get under that. Maybe you can provide some insight on why that is?