Understand your point here but it’s not like we are 5,000 seats short of a sellout. I think someone said we are 475 seats short?? Easily conceivable that 500 people are busy with harvest. Can think of 15-16 from my small town, including myself.
Are ISU fans at their wits end when it comes to supporting Iowa State?
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That’s wages. Nothing to do with capital. On a macro level it has caught up. Not universally unfortunately but that is the way it always is
Somewhat but cost of living is pretty insane. If you're a single income buying a home is really difficult. Rent is sky high, no return.
If you're married, have a job that pays well with benefits and some money saved to give you buying power then it's great. Anyone that isn't there yet it's a struggle.
This is a byproduct of rapid inflation. Not only are the things we need more expensive, but everyone around us thinks they need more money too. It does get overwhelming for sure…
Well I'm having we will pizza and a Ames Lager for supper. Yeah they day ran late oh well. These donors don't even get counted, but I hope both products are doing well for you. How are the in stadium pizza sales doing?
It can definitely be tough when you see people demanding/expecting more than 50% increases (looking at you dockworkers and others…), while you got 3% increases or so the last few years. And I know some people say you should just find a different job, but when you like what you do, like who you work with, etc…you kind of want to make it work despite the money.
Feel like this has been the case since the early 2000’s.
There is a huge inflow/outflow of ag products during certain times, like harvest.
As someone who spent decades working in or around the above facilities I guarantee they have a large increase in activity during harvest.
Not every farm has the capacity to store all the incoming grain and has to go to the above facilities, and all those facilities take all types of other workers and businesses to operate. Right now is one of the busiest times for grain shipments on railroads etc.
There is a lot of Iowa that everything still revolves around Ag. Everything.
You are right everything has an impact, some more than others, some are constant some hit highs during certain months like sept/oct. Some are starting to wind down at the same time. But saying the ag industry has little impact on game attendance in sept/oct at a place like ISU is just not correct.
It looks like we have about 150 tickets left to sell for a sell out. Are you saying there are not 150 ag workers not able to go to this game? My guess on a weekend like this there are a few thousand give or take that cant go because of ag work. That is not a huge impact, but it very well can be the difference in a sellout vs not.
Sometimes metrics don’t tell the whole story though. If you look in the Silicon Valley area, there are a lot of expensive cars on the road. People working in/for the big tech companies are killing it. Just working for one of those big names for a few years sets people on a path to wealth. Meanwhile, you talk to people with “regular” jobs and they tell you how inflation is killing them (high rent, other costs)…and then theft too. I honestly thought that it must have been overblown…but San Francisco (aside from Fisherman’s Wharf area) is nothing like it was 15 years ago. It’s truly awful. We have some of that here too (though not as bad). Some are doing well…others are definitely feeling it…
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In today's overall environment, and taking everything into consideration, I think it's extremely shortsighted and somewhat ignorant for anyone to question or wonder why any athletic event isn't selling out.
There are multitudes of reasons, and most have been brought up in these various threads. In addition to all of those... do NOT discount the fact that people are generally just getting sick and tired and becoming disinterested with everything going on right now in college athletics overall. All the powers that be are seemingly doing anything and everything possible to destroy the college game and experience.
Who is really interested in seeing Washington play Rutgers for just one example? I mean... it's only a 2,900 mile road trip! Who gives a f**k about that?
Or.. how about all the transferring? Don't dare to start giving a s**t or developing an admiration for any of the players on your favorite team... there is a decent chance they won't be back the following year... and might now play for 2, 3, or even 4 different teams in their career. Because now getting a free college education AND $200,000 a year might not be enough for a kid to stay at your favorite school. Someone else might offer them $500,000 the following year if they have a good season.
And finally... how about this new P2 system where basically only 2 conferences really matter. Now the B1G and SEC want to be guaranteed that they will each get 4 teams in the college playoff? Good riddance as far as I'm concerned.
I'll cheer on ISU forever... but it's hard to fork out more and more of your hard earned money for a team that virtually has no chance in this new system... losing their greatest rivalry games in order to travel nearly across the entire country... the game experience itself is getting worse... there is no real attachment to any of the players because they might be here 1 or 2 years at best... etc, etc, etc.
So for anyone to sit and ponder why games might not be selling out just have not been paying attention at all and need to wake up. Part of me hopes that college athletics suffers from all of this, and change is forced to happen... but that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon. They continue to roll in the money... at least for now.
There are multitudes of reasons, and most have been brought up in these various threads. In addition to all of those... do NOT discount the fact that people are generally just getting sick and tired and becoming disinterested with everything going on right now in college athletics overall. All the powers that be are seemingly doing anything and everything possible to destroy the college game and experience.
Who is really interested in seeing Washington play Rutgers for just one example? I mean... it's only a 2,900 mile road trip! Who gives a f**k about that?
Or.. how about all the transferring? Don't dare to start giving a s**t or developing an admiration for any of the players on your favorite team... there is a decent chance they won't be back the following year... and might now play for 2, 3, or even 4 different teams in their career. Because now getting a free college education AND $200,000 a year might not be enough for a kid to stay at your favorite school. Someone else might offer them $500,000 the following year if they have a good season.
And finally... how about this new P2 system where basically only 2 conferences really matter. Now the B1G and SEC want to be guaranteed that they will each get 4 teams in the college playoff? Good riddance as far as I'm concerned.
I'll cheer on ISU forever... but it's hard to fork out more and more of your hard earned money for a team that virtually has no chance in this new system... losing their greatest rivalry games in order to travel nearly across the entire country... the game experience itself is getting worse... there is no real attachment to any of the players because they might be here 1 or 2 years at best... etc, etc, etc.
So for anyone to sit and ponder why games might not be selling out just have not been paying attention at all and need to wake up. Part of me hopes that college athletics suffers from all of this, and change is forced to happen... but that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon. They continue to roll in the money... at least for now.
My dad was in the ag industry his whole career (but not a farmer). Definitely agree with this. Planting and harvesting season are definitely not a Monday-Friday endeavor.
It’s evidenced by the state fair for example. Record attendance, yet vendor sales were down from what I had heard. People are starting to feel it. Groceries, daycare bills, electricity, water, house payment etc, take priority over spending $2,000 a year to go to football games with the spouse and kids.
It's just reality for most... but some don't understand that it seems. "Why aren't we selling games out!!!!". Well... because honestly... it's VERY expensive for most people... and the product is getting worse and worse every year with realignment, and all the greed.
You are confusing wages with income. Wages has nothing to do with investments or capital. Theres no cap gains, dividends, interest, etc in wages. Just pay for work.
Real wages HAVE outpaced inflation.
People just feel and remember the bad much more than the good. Its like loss aversion.
Of course. We still go to the dog sitter but he’s now the ex boyfriend.
I didn’t realize there were companies giving 30% plus raises back in 2022 and 2023. Guess I should have been working at those places.
2022 was rough when things peaked, but it’s been about 1.5+ years of wages outpacing prices.
Sentiment is a real thing, so it will probably have to continue for a while to make people feel “over” it, but the metrics have improved.
Since I was in high school. That's kind of what Millennials have been shouting to the heavens for decades now. I'm not trying to doom and gloom but it gets old hearing how great everything is when it's just not the case for a lot of hard working people.
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