Once Cy Town is done it would be awesome to get a great google maps visual comparison photo of before/after Pollard. Around JTS and JTS itself is already probably crazy, it'll be night and day after Cy Town.
Kudos to Jamie Pollard
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ISU will not have baseball. LOL.
Yeah that wasn't clear in your statement at all.
I don't think Iowa State will ever give out 105 football scholarships and probably won't do 15 for MBB, at least not every year. WBB has been 15 and I don't think we usually have that many do we? For Title IX purposes it has to be the number of scholarships you actually give and not the number you could give right? Otherwise you could just make the WBB limit 200 and the whole thing becomes meaningless. If you limit things to just Football, MBB, WBB, VB, and SB it still is probably too far off but not as bad as 120 to 68.
I think you are probably right about the 15 scholarships not always being filled although they might just give the walk on caliber players a ride as a thank you for their efforts. I don't think the comparison to the women's 15 schollies not being filled is valid though. The women have a squad of practice players to practice against so they don't necessarily need the bodies to effectively go 5 on 5 like the men do.
Iowa State will absolutely give the full allotment.
Jamie going to walk into Campbell's or TJ's office and tell them 'hey, we're going to put you at a competitive disadvantage by choice. How's that sound?'
Just because one doesn't necessarily get filled doesn't mean that Jamie is restricting it getting filled.
I think the idea of holding one open until camp starts for BB will become far from rare so that there is room for a desired player who might change his mind late in the process. A final walk on caliber player could be added at the start of school if desired.
Pollard has down an excellent job as the AD at ISU, kept us in the black, while also improving facilities and growing the brand.
Like every school not in the SEC or B10, the struggle will be even harder going forward, this new rule allowing 105 scholarships for football is beyond crazy, and will just help the "haves" as now Georgia and Ohio State will have another 20 scholarships to give to kids that would have either been forced to walk on or take that free ride at another school.
Scholarships should have been reduced to 75, allowed players to play all five years and then capped the number of players in the program at 105, that would help the schools struggling with money, but we now how is running the show and it sure is not the B12 and ACC.
Like every school not in the SEC or B10, the struggle will be even harder going forward, this new rule allowing 105 scholarships for football is beyond crazy, and will just help the "haves" as now Georgia and Ohio State will have another 20 scholarships to give to kids that would have either been forced to walk on or take that free ride at another school.
Scholarships should have been reduced to 75, allowed players to play all five years and then capped the number of players in the program at 105, that would help the schools struggling with money, but we now how is running the show and it sure is not the B12 and ACC.
But in a world of NIL what does limiting the scholarships to less than the roster size actually accomplish? Is the whole we will pay you $800,000 to come here but you have to shell out $50K of that to pay for school a big deal breaker? Even the NCAA figured out it was pointless so that is why roster sizes and scholarship limits are the same - I think for every sport.
Its hard to say, but really how many players not on scholarship and walking on are going to be getting an $800K NIL deal? The NCAA caved in to what the money making schools and conferences wanted because it allowed them to use the money they are getting from their media contract to keep their conferences front and center, and makes it more difficult for the B12 and ACC with fewer resources to keep up.
There is no way this new rule helps the schools of the B12 or ACC, and in fact does the opposite as it makes it more difficult to recruit players that would not have had a scholarship at the Alabama's of the world and taken one from the KSU and ISU's of the world.
Not under Pollard. He's not getting rid of cross country/track.
I don't think the impact to the B12 and ACC will be as negative as some are making it out to be. Let's keep in mind 2 assumptions resulting from the House Settlement agreement:
1) $22M initial "NIL" Cap for all Athletic Departments.
2) No Pay for Play deals from collectives or other vendors disguised as Pay for Play.
#1 applies to all sports so there is no way any SEC or B10 FB program will be able to fund 105 full rides with significant "NIL" under the $22M cap. Like B12 and ACC programs, they will likely end up fully funding (including "NIL") significantly below the 105 so that part of the cap can be allocated for other sports (especially if Title IX becomes part of the equation). I can see ISU giving their top 50 FB players full rides + full "NIL" benefits and maybe another 30 guys getting FCOA schollies without any or limited NIL benefits. And the goal would be to retain their top FB players with competitive NIL benefits from the AD's cap (and their top MBB and WBB players as well) in similar fashion to what they do now.
And if #2 is properly administered and regulated as intended in the Settlement, that will also significantly reduce advantages the SEC or B10 may have.
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Just depends what you are into.....
You are assuming that the $22 million or so will do away with NIL, which the wealthier schools will not allow to happen. NIL are operating outside the scope of the school and is separate from the school, ISU has no control over NIL funds and which players receives those funds, they can ask, no more.
The agreement before congress means to most, that schools will have to come up with $22 million to pay the athletes from their ticket and media dollars, and has nothing to do with NIL funds which it totally separate from the university athletic department.
I have read nothing that suggest that when the $22 million or so dollar agreement go through that will end NIL.
yep. no money from me until they have beer. thats free money with no change in atmosphere
Yeah as I previously posted, the $22M will not do away with NIL but the clear intent of the House Settlement is to do away with Pay for Play disguised as NIL that is paid outside of the ADs. So SEC and B10 athletes will have to prove that their NIL deals outside of ADs are at Fair Market Value for services rendered to the vendor. Tennessee will no longer be able to have their affiliated collective pay a HS QB $5M (in addition to what the kid gets from the UT AD)unless it is proven that is Fair Market NIL Value to that collective or a 3rd party vendor for services rendered not directly related to the kid's FB talents.
So in summary, the House Settlement does level the playing field to a significant extent if enforced as intended.
