John Deere as corporate punching bag

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People don't even know how greedy/wasteful they are in spending. They're just trying to keep up with everyone around them.

Look at subdivisions as a prime example.
One family gets the super overdone clunky adjustable $900 basketball hoop, then in three months there's 4 or 5 more.

Don't get me started on peoples' 'need' to eat out.

When I told a friend we only get takeout/go out about 2x a month, they looked at me like I had three heads.

"How do you do that?" they asked. "How do you eat?"
"We cook."
 

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When I told a friend we only get takeout/go out about 2x a month, they looked at me like I had three heads.

"How do you do that?" they asked. "How do you eat?"
"We cook."
There's not much free time anymore. We're also programmed that way. In Europe they fix the old building. In the US we demolish and build new. Single serve everything.
 

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When I told a friend we only get takeout/go out about 2x a month, they looked at me like I had three heads.

"How do you do that?" they asked. "How do you eat?"
"We cook."
I did a report via Monarch on restaraunts/bars from January to recent and the numbers will astound. There definitely has been an uptick and it doesnt even feel like it. That stuff sneaks up on you and doing some simple budgeting definitely brings you back to reality. Even subscriptions and such, sneaky costs and can be very wasteful.
 

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Does that mean if you don't receive the dreaded phone call by noon today, you're one of the survivers?
That's how I understand it. They sent out a bunch of 15 minute private appoints a little after 8 this morning. Said they hoped to get it done in one fell swoop but acknowledged that there could be some technical issues with that.
 

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I know CEOs get paid a lot, but they are just wired differently.

I've seen what that job is up close. The number of people who would sign up for that lifestyle, who would put in the years of effort and sacrifice to have a chance at that lifestyle, who are remotely capable of doing the job... is low. The number of those that then are actually good at it... lower.

That said, pay packets have to change. Stock options are great but they need to be longer term or something. Like it can't just be based off this year, and not future years as well somehow. Too easy to get a huge benefit from one year which may be just luck or timing, and then the future is crap. It's not like it would be that hard to do, idk why it isn't done more frankly.
 

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That's how I understand it. They sent out a bunch of 15 minute private appoints a little after 8 this morning. Said they hoped to get it done in one fell swoop but acknowledged that there could be some technical issues with that.
Well my son said he hasn't received the dreaded email as of 10:30 this morning so he's cautiously optimistic, but he knows he's not out of the woods until noon. I'm praying HR sent all the emails out by 8:15 like they said they intended to do.

This is awful.
 

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When I told a friend we only get takeout/go out about 2x a month, they looked at me like I had three heads.

"How do you do that?" they asked. "How do you eat?"
"We cook."

'Cooking takes too long!'

Simple meals don't have to take as long as the 5-10 minimum drive both ways, 5-10 potential wait to be seated, and then the 15-20ish minutes wait for food, more for the check/payment, etc.

Then do costs and it's perplexing that it's so normal.
 

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'Cooking takes too long!'

Simple meals don't have to take as long as the 5-10 minimum drive both ways, 5-10 potential wait to be seated, and then the 15-20ish minutes wait for food, more for the check/payment, etc.

Then do costs and it's perplexing that it's so normal.

Most meals I make during the week take 30 minutes or less. We also do a lot of meal prep on Sundays. And we eat leftovers for lunch (and sometimes supper). It takes some planning, but I feel like it's saved us time and money.
 
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But there's time to go out for 1-2 hours to eat?
I try to cook for myself so you're preaching to the choir. I just think it's short sighted to say all people need to do is eat at home and not get Starbucks and all their financial worries are fixed.

Edit: Also consider time saved prepping, cooking and cleaning. I agree it's still going to save if you cook at home but as far as time investment it's not that different. I spend an hour doing those things to cook for myself. To a family with limited time together you could do that at a restaurant instead of doing the chores.
 
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'Cooking takes too long!'

Simple meals don't have to take as long as the 5-10 minimum drive both ways, 5-10 potential wait to be seated, and then the 15-20ish minutes wait for food, more for the check/payment, etc.

Then do costs and it's perplexing that it's so normal.
Fast food prices have skyrocketed recently. If i can get the meat on sale, I can have a steak dinner for the same price as a meal from McDonald's.
 

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I try to cook for myself so you're preaching to the choir. I just think it's short sighted to say all people need to do is eat at home and not get Starbucks and all their financial worries are fixed.
No but its a start in a chain of events that will help get there.
 
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A question for general curiosity, would you be willing to have your 401k return cut 3% annually if 3% went to increased wages for the employees of the company your 401k was invested in? Don’t give me that won’t ever happen response, all you need to answer with is a yes or no.
I don’t agree with this line of thinking. Stock prices are based upon investor outlook on the organization. At least that is what I’ve been told ever since I’ve learned of investing. Investor outlook is based upon technology increases, investments, gains in productivity, etc. Earnings are just short term fixes meant to tell investors, “look what I’ve done for you.” A la Enron.
It’s a boom and bust ideology for higher ups to increase their bankroll now. No way a ceo would except a package that based a large part of their bonus on stock options that mature at a future time.
All in all, I am saying that your argument is based in fallacy.

My answer is yes, if we lived in fantasyland, since that is where your question is based.
 

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Most meals I make during the week take 30 minutes or less. We also do a lot of meal prep on Sundays. And we eat leftovers for lunch (and sometimes supper). It takes some planning, but I feel like it's saved us time and money.
People also need to learn to simplify their meals as well. Not only does it make thing healthier, but it saves time and money.

Chicken breast/steak/pork chop
vegetables (steamed or roasted in the oven)
olive oil (for cooking roasted vegetables/cooking)
sweet potato (can bake them in the microwave)
salad and dressing

Not all meals need to be an elaborate recipe with 10 different ingredients
 
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