Hollywood, stop ruining the classics!

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If it were the same cast (minus John Candy), fine. But Josh f**king Gad? GROSS! That is just as bad as Ed Helms almost getting to play Frank Drebin in a Naked Gun remake.
Neesen should be fine as Drebin but they really should have gotten Ryan Gosling
 
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Its what the audience wants. They're not 'shoving anything down people's throats'. There are plenty of non-sequel\remake movies released every year. People just don't go see them.

Streaming at home got better and easier.

Theaters compensated by delivering the premium experience that people couldnt get at home, but it costs more for a ticket buyer, so the buyer is less likely to take risks with that purchase.

So what do customers risk their dollar on?

- Special effects spectacles that they know will benefit from the theater experience
- movies in the same IP as a prior well-regarded movie, as these are "low-risk" to a viewer, even if they're not as good as the original, they rarely feel like they wasted their money entirely
- event type movies where people feel like they have to see it right away (for reasons of spoilers, etc)

These also all explain why the MCU did so well the last decade (before quality began to suffer). They ticked all 3 boxes. Its also why comedy movies are essentially dead in the box office, because they're generally low special effects, generally one-off movies, and there's little urgency to see them.
Good point, I probably shouldn't have said that. People do go and see the non-sequal/non-reboots, they're just not seen by the mindless masses. And what really sucks is that there are great movies out there waiting to be made but aren't because it's safer to make that 13th Batman movie.
 

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This tread lost me when the OP called Spaceballs a classic. Only slightly better than History of the World part one and the both sucked.
 
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Good point, I probably shouldn't have said that. People do go and see the non-sequal/non-reboots, they're just not seen by the mindless masses. And what really sucks is that there are great movies out there waiting to be made but aren't because it's safer to make that 13th Batman movie.
We went to see the new The Fall Guy a couple of weeks ago. Tremendous fun, clever, I love Emily Blunt, Ryan Gosling is great. It’s losing money, hardly anyone is buying tickets to it.

I’ve heard the new Furiosa is fantastic, another top-notch entry in the Mad Max saga and another George Miller triumph. It’s losing money, hardly anyone is buying tickets to it.

Inside Out 2 just opened. I’m sure it’s terrific, Pixar’s track record is solid and the concept sounds interesting. It’s also 1) a sequel and 2) a kids-oriented animated film in the summer. It’s breaking records.

The rise of streaming, the convenience of waiting to watch movies at home, and yeah, the rising price of movie tickets have hit the studios pretty hard. They have a hard time creating content that makes people think they have to see it right away, on the big screen, when they know they can wait a month or two and watch it on their 80” screens at home. So they stick to retreads of well-known titles, things that aren’t as risky, things that maybe aren’t so expensive to produce.
 

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For the most part, I agree about unnecessary remakes, but, then again, there's DUNE.
 

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I will say this about sequels. Have their really been that many unnecessary remakes that have "ruined" the original? People spoke about how they still love Indiana Jones even though they didn't like the 2 recent ones. Major League won a "best sports movie" tournament even though Major League: Back to the Minors was awful. Nobody criticizes Airplane because its sequel was lackluster.

Plus, Mel Brooks is involved in this, so I gotta imagine he approves of the script they have written. I think its got a decent shot of being decent.
 

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We went to see the new The Fall Guy a couple of weeks ago. Tremendous fun, clever, I love Emily Blunt, Ryan Gosling is great. It’s losing money, hardly anyone is buying tickets to it.

I’ve heard the new Furiosa is fantastic, another top-notch entry in the Mad Max saga and another George Miller triumph. It’s losing money, hardly anyone is buying tickets to it.

Inside Out 2 just opened. I’m sure it’s terrific, Pixar’s track record is solid and the concept sounds interesting. It’s also 1) a sequel and 2) a kids-oriented animated film in the summer. It’s breaking records.

The rise of streaming, the convenience of waiting to watch movies at home, and yeah, the rising price of movie tickets have hit the studios pretty hard. They have a hard time creating content that makes people think they have to see it right away, on the big screen, when they know they can wait a month or two and watch it on their 80” screens at home. So they stick to retreads of well-known titles, things that aren’t as risky, things that maybe aren’t so expensive to produce.

I design toys and merch for movies. Buyers often won’t touch a new IP (even if it looks like a can’t miss) but line up around the block for sequels and franchises.

Frozen and Despicable Me are the ultimate examples. Buyer’s stayed away from merch, they caught up eventually but both launched with virtually no merch and toys.

To this thread…I bet I’ve seen Spaceballs 100 times and I’d kill to work on gag products for SBII: TSFMM. No clue how I could create a Spaceballs the Flamethrower product but I’d try. To my knowledge Spaceballs is the only movie to directly mention merchandising itself right in the movie. Wayne’s World spoofed product placement.
 

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Just keep watching the original if you don’t like this one. I don’t really get why its a big deal.
 
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Spaceballs is the only movie to directly mention merchandising itself right in the movie. Wayne’s World spoofed product placement.
When Mel Brooks wrote it he gave a copy of the script to George Lucas. Lucas approved of it on one condition, no merchandising, so Mel Brooks added that scene into the movie to joke about it.
 

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When Mel Brooks wrote it he gave a copy of the script to George Lucas. Lucas approved of it on one condition, no merchandising, so Mel Brooks added that scene into the movie to joke about it.

I’m pretty sure I watched Spaceballs while slurping down C3P-Os cereal.