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She is the greatest gymnast of all time. Does she draw ratings though? I think you're confusing greatness for influence. Gymnastics is basically just as popular now as before Simone came onto the scene. Extremely popular once every four years and very much an afterthought outside of that.

I’d def watch her this summer in the Olympics over Clark when Clark likely gets added to fill an injury. it’s incredible what she’s doing vs the norm of her sport and it’s traditionally a popular Olympic sport.

Probably the US Men bball Team Cyclones, Biles and wrestling is what I’ll watch.
 
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Imagine having multiple Olympians in basketball and there will be multiple segments with the Garzas before they have any substantive conversations about Tyrese Halliburton on the US team.

Maybe they should have put her on the bench when Iowa was up 20+ points instead of letting her keep shooting in blowout wins.

It was critical to catch Pete’s 3 year record with no 3pt line.
 

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I’d def watch her this summer in the Olympics over Clark when Clark likely gets added to fill an injury. it’s incredible what she’s doing vs the norm of her sport and it’s traditionally a popular Olympic sport.

Probably the US Men bball Team Cyclones, Biles and wrestling is what I’ll watch.

I'm guessing this is Simone's last Olympics too. Gymnasts age out so fast. She's amazing though. She has, what, five gymnastic moves named for her. More than any other previous gymnast. I love Simone.
 

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She is the greatest gymnast of all time. Does she draw ratings though? I think you're confusing greatness for influence. Gymnastics is basically just as popular now as before Simone came onto the scene. Extremely popular once every four years and very much an afterthought outside of that.

In the US maybe. I think you’re not giving enough credit to the international aspect in sports like women’s gymnastics and women’s tennis. There’s a WAY bigger market than women’s basketball.
 

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Listening to Miller Condon podcast of today. Miller legit said CC is best woman to dribble a basketball. Unreal
This type is really pretty sick when you think about it, and actually quite unfair to any young person that gets this kind of attention and unreasonable amount of affection purely so a media entity can get clicks. In a weird way, some of these guys give off a creepy Brittany Spears late-90's vibe about this whole situation.

Copying what I shared yesterday in the CC thread:

There literally might be millions of people that are deeply, truly, and passionately duped (by the media) into believing CC is by far the best women's basketball player in the world right now, and maybe ever.
If it turns out that she's just a really good player, and spends her career between top 10 - 20 player in the game (IF she ever gets there - she is clearly not right now) - let's say the female James Harden - this would be a catastrophic fall from the pedestal that millions have be duped into believing she is on.

Narratives like this are also crazy offensive to the current women's professional game (and to the current and all-time WNBA greats), the same game that apparently these people think is 'growing' from this. It clearly shows that these people have not watched (and do not watch) other WNBA players.
 

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I’d def watch her this summer in the Olympics over Clark when Clark likely gets added to fill an injury. it’s incredible what she’s doing vs the norm of her sport and it’s traditionally a popular Olympic sport.

Probably the US Men bball Team Cyclones, Biles and wrestling is what I’ll watch.

well of course, I would too but that's not really the point. Women's Gymnastics is one of the most popular events in the olympics and usually gets good ratings. Did you watch any of her events in the last four years? If Biles weren't in these olympics and instead it was the next star gymnast in the US gymnast factory, would that really impact the ratings?

So again, the Serena Williams, Simone Biles, Anika Sorenstam, etc, etc comparisons don't really hold water. All of those women were much better at their respective sports than Clark will ever be. Countless other women can say the same. That isn't really relevant to the discussion we're having however. Those ladies impact on the ratings of their collective sport were small, none of that were their fault. Those sports just aren't going to be mainstream popular. Women's basketball on the other hand has a shot.

As I mentioned earlier, Mia Hamm is the most obvious comparison. She and her teammates didn't just draw ratings when ratings for women's sports were unheard of, they basically built women's soccer on their backs. Clark has accomplished the first part, drawing unheard of ratings for a women's sport. The rest is yet to be determined
 

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In the US maybe. I think you’re not giving enough credit to the international aspect in sports like women’s gymnastics and women’s tennis. There’s a WAY bigger market than women’s basketball.

I won't pretend to know what the market is in other countries. I know soccer is popular basically everywhere, outside of that *shrug*
 

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This type is really pretty sick when you think about it, and actually quite unfair to any young person that gets this kind of attention and unreasonable amount of affection purely so a media entity can get clicks. In a weird way, some of these guys give off a creepy Brittany Spears late-90's vibe about this whole situation.

Copying what I shared yesterday in the CC thread:

There literally might be millions of people that are deeply, truly, and passionately duped (by the media) into believing CC is by far the best women's basketball player in the world right now, and maybe ever.
If it turns out that she's just a really good player, and spends her career between top 10 - 20 player in the game (IF she ever gets there - she is clearly not right now) - let's say the female James Harden - this would be a catastrophic fall from the pedestal that millions have be duped into believing she is on.

Narratives like this are also crazy offensive to the current women's professional game (and to the current and all-time WNBA greats), the same game that apparently these people think is 'growing' from this. It clearly shows that these people have not watched (and do not watch) other WNBA players.
Agree. Clark isn't the problem. Dipshits are.
 
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Say what you want about Randy Pete..... he would not act the way Murph and company do. He was more professional. Murph and the rest are really nothing more than Hok fans with "journalist" credentials... you cannot take them seriously.
 

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well of course, I would too but that's not really the point. Women's Gymnastics is one of the most popular events in the olympics and usually gets good ratings. Did you watch any of her events in the last four years? If Biles weren't in these olympics and instead it was the next star gymnast in the US gymnast factory, would that really impact the ratings?

So again, the Serena Williams, Simone Biles, Anika Sorenstam, etc, etc comparisons don't really hold water. All of those women were much better at their respective sports than Clark will ever be. Countless other women can say the same. That isn't really relevant to the discussion we're having however. Those ladies impact on the ratings of their collective sport were small, none of that were their fault. Those sports just aren't going to be mainstream popular. Women's basketball on the other hand has a shot.

As I mentioned earlier, Mia Hamm is the most obvious comparison. She and her teammates didn't just draw ratings when ratings for women's sports were unheard of, they basically built women's soccer on their backs. Clark has accomplished the first part, drawing unheard of ratings for a women's sport. The rest is yet to be determined

I don’t get how what you’re arguing has anything to do with these local media Hawkeye jerkoffs claiming CC is the greatest female athlete of all time already.

Fwiw I’ve always said this whole thing reminds me most of early years of Tiger Woods. Especially how they both say the perfect nice angelic thing to the press all the time but on the court/course they are mean and nasty dropping f bombs constantly and I feel kind of icky that I’m even cheering for them because of how good they can be. Golf and wbb had hardcore fans but overnight a majority of “golf fans” were just people watching Tiger the same way you have to explain basic principles of basketball and sports to a lot of Clark nuts.
 

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I don’t get how what you’re arguing has anything to do with these local media Hawkeye jerkoffs claiming CC is the greatest female athlete of all time already.

Fwiw I’ve always said this whole thing reminds me most of early years of Tiger Woods. Especially how they both say the perfect nice angelic thing to the press all the time but on the court/course they are mean and nasty dropping f bombs constantly and I feel kind of icky that I’m even cheering for them because of how good they can be. Golf and wbb had hardcore fans but overnight a majority of “golf fans” were just people watching Tiger the same way you have to explain basic principles of basketball and sports to a lot of Clark nuts.

I think there were two different local media Hawkeye jerkoffs claiming two different things. I think Condon was completely wrong, Clark isn't anywhere close to the best to ever dribble a basketball. Dochterman was mostly right. He made no claims about her being the best, but rather her drawing the most fan interest and being influential. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I think Mia Hamm is the obvious comparison on that.

As to your last point, yes that's what happens when you bring in new fans. If you're lucky, a good portion of that new fanbase will stick around after the athlete has passed their prime the way golf fans did.
 

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I think there were two different local media Hawkeye jerkoffs claiming two different things. I think Condon was completely wrong, Clark isn't anywhere close to the best to ever dribble a basketball. Dochterman was mostly right. He made no claims about her being the best, but rather her drawing the most fan interest and being influential. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I think Mia Hamm is the obvious comparison on that.

As to your last point, yes that's what happens when you bring in new fans. If you're lucky, a good portion of that new fanbase will stick around after the athlete has passed their prime the way golf fans did.

If the majority of new fans insist legal screens result in felony prison time, many old fans will eventually tune out. Not even exaggerating with majority. Look up an ig or yt video of Stewart screening their princess, they’re ready to kill and/or imprison somebody for a textbook screen.

That particular ugly aspect is unprecedented vs say Mia Hamm or Tiger, the irrational psychotic overprotectiveness. It’s not CC’s fault, more do to social media culture and leadership culture vs a couple decades ago.
 

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If the majority of new fans insist legal screens result in felony prison time, many old fans will eventually tune out. Not even exaggerating with majority. Look up an ig or yt video of Stewart screening their princess, they’re ready to kill and/or imprison somebody for a textbook screen.

That particular ugly aspect is unprecedented vs say Mia Hamm or Tiger, the irrational psychotic overprotectiveness. It’s not CC’s fault, more do to social media culture and leadership culture vs a couple decades ago.

Yes, we live in the age of cults. You want to ruin your life for a few weeks? Post something negative about Taylor Swift on social media.
 

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It's a low paying job with a fast pace work environment to multi task and sometimes thankless hours as well. Had a friend that once was a producer at WHOTV 13 many years ago that said the title should have been called tape monkey. If they produced the morning show you'd be in by 2am to queue up all the video to run stories for the newscast and sometimes would not know the lead story until 15 minutes before you went on air. That was TV so probably more things to manage at once than radio since you have visuals but even with radio you have to manage incoming calls, finding random audio on the spot, while also having a quick finger to hit the dump button when someone drops a f-bomb while also being able to contribute to conversation. All that for crap pay too, you could probably wait tables or bartend and make way more in tips.
So what you're saying is that it's not an easy job and it's massively underappreciated...maybe tell crybabies in here that.