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Final42b said:
It’s not a surprise because I’m sure all the voters are old Iowa fans. But you’d have to be blind to think he’s a better player than Omaha.
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No one questions Omaha has the far better potential In the long term (both college and pro), hence his 5 star rating. Better player in HS isn’t based on potential. In HS it’s all about the stats and winning In determining Mr. BB. Pryce has the edge in stats in virtually every category including rebounding and they won 2 of 3 in head to head. So to blame his winning on “voters who are old Iowa fans” Is like blaming officials for every loss (and yes we fans all do that). But, give Pryce his credit — he deserved to win. Additionally, Pryce will most likely be at Iowa for 4 years, Omaha a max of 2. So who is likely to have the better college career?
 
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Hawktj said:
No one questions Omaha has the far better potential In the long term (both college and pro), hence his 5 star rating. Better player in HS isn’t based on potential. In HS it’s all about the stats and winning In determining Mr. BB. Pryce has the edge in stats in virtually every category including rebounding and they won 2 of 3 in head to head. So to blame his winning on “voters who are old Iowa fans” Is like blaming officials for every loss (and yes we fans all do that). But, give Pryce his credit — he deserved to win. Additionally, Pryce will most likely be at Iowa for 4 years, Omaha a max of 2. So who is likely to have the better college career?
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The right way - DEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
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Hawktj said:
No one questions Omaha has the far better potential In the long term (both college and pro), hence his 5 star rating. Better player in HS isn’t based on potential. In HS it’s all about the stats and winning In determining Mr. BB. Pryce has the edge in stats in virtually every category including rebounding and they won 2 of 3 in head to head. So to blame his winning on “voters who are old Iowa fans” Is like blaming officials for every loss (and yes we fans all do that). But, give Pryce his credit — he deserved to win. Additionally, Pryce will most likely be at Iowa for 4 years, Omaha a max of 2. So who is likely to have the better college career?
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College career or impact on the program? Bringing a guy in who goes to the NBA after a year or 2 is huge for recruiting, so a guy like that has an impact beyond his productivity on the floor. If Fran is still there I'm sure Pryce will be a key piece as an upper-classman on a 6th place B1G team that gets a 7 seed and bows out in the first weekend. That's pretty much the ceiling and Iowa fans are more than happy to accept it.
 
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Hawktj said:
No one questions Omaha has the far better potential In the long term (both college and pro), hence his 5 star rating. Better player in HS isn’t based on potential. In HS it’s all about the stats and winning In determining Mr. BB. Pryce has the edge in stats in virtually every category including rebounding and they won 2 of 3 in head to head. So to blame his winning on “voters who are old Iowa fans” Is like blaming officials for every loss (and yes we fans all do that). But, give Pryce his credit — he deserved to win. Additionally, Pryce will most likely be at Iowa for 4 years, Omaha a max of 2. So who is likely to have the better college career?
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Oh please, stop with this garbage...

Here's a great way to determine who's a better basketball player. If you could choose right now who you'd want on your team? Not who has the most potential in the NBA or even in the NCAA.. Who is better right now? It's Omaha and if you choose Pryce you're absolutely lying to yourself. The voting would be 99% Omaha if you did a poll excluding ISU and Iowa fans for bias purposes. He's a McDonald's All-American for a reason.
 
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So what's a guy get for being Gatorade Iowa POY? A lifetime supply of product. A big trophy. A wall certificate.

I am sure Biliew isn't losing any sleep on not winning and is enjoying his lifetime supply of free chicken nuggets.

It could be that both kids have great futures.
 
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Oh please, stop with this garbage...

Here's a great way to determine who's a better basketball player. If you could choose right now who you'd want on your team? Not who has the most potential in the NBA or even in the NCAA.. Who is better right now? It's Omaha and if you choose Pryce you're absolutely lying to yourself. The voting would be 99% Omaha if you did a poll excluding ISU and Iowa fans for bias purposes. He's a McDonald's All-American for a reason.
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I’m sorry, I forgot where I was. I was thinking of a rational discussion. Forgot you guys can’t do that. See ya.
 
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How boring does your life have to be to create that many handles on CF? I've maintained one for 15 years since I was a Junior in high school without having to run for the hills and come back with a new identity.
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That includes most peoples young and dumb years that's pretty darn good.
 
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Omaha seems like a solid kid. To suggest that he’ll be another Foster is a crap thing to say. Foster’s ISU career was over before it started because of alleged sexual harassment.

I went to the Waukee v NW state tourney game and what was clear is that Sandfort had far better players around him than Omaha, especially Kelderman. I don’t know Kelderman’s college prospects but when I’ve seen him play he seems like a guy who will be playing for a team like Yale or Lehigh in the NCAA tournament and causing problems. Love his game.
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I’ve heard that Kelderman has a preferred walk on offer from TJ
 
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Connor beats both with this rationale.
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Fran's eighth grader is guaranteed better than Marcus Fizer with this logic.

I mean if a four year player turns out to be Monte Morris, sure. But if you want to win conference championships and make final fours you absolutely need some players who leave for the NBA after 1, 2 or 3 seasons.

We should be hoping players like Milan and Omaha are good enough to go to the NBA after 2 or 3 years. If Haliburton had avoided injury and our team wasn't a train wreck, it would have been a very good a good thing that we had the best college point guard as a sophomore. To not want that is insane.

Even Iowa...I guess they don't want another Keegan or Kris Murray, it's hilariously dumb.
 
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No one questions Omaha has the far better potential In the long term (both college and pro), hence his 5 star rating. Better player in HS isn’t based on potential. In HS it’s all about the stats and winning In determining Mr. BB. Pryce has the edge in stats in virtually every category including rebounding and they won 2 of 3 in head to head. So to blame his winning on “voters who are old Iowa fans” Is like blaming officials for every loss (and yes we fans all do that). But, give Pryce his credit — he deserved to win. Additionally, Pryce will most likely be at Iowa for 4 years, Omaha a max of 2. So who is likely to have the better college career?
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The measure of a better college career is not how many years they stay in the program.

You really think that keeping a guy around 4 years is better than a guy staying 1 or 2 years and moving up to the NBA?

Teams don't win championships without elite talent. It's that simple.

4 year guys are great for continuity, culture, etc. But if you only have those types of players, you can expect to continue to be middle of the pack in your conference and scratching for MAYBE one win in the big dance every year.
 
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Obviously you need good 4 year players to have a good program, but mixing in NBA lottery talent with your roster is a fun "problem" to have. Oh, and we do have a good 4 year player in this class. I'll take him with Omaha.
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IASTATE07 said:
We've heard a lot of funny basketball recruiting arguments over the years from Iowa fans. Not wanting to land 5* prospects is one of the weirder ones.
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Agreed. It’s weird. I’d take Pryce in our recruiting class in a heartbeat as he is a good player, but Hok fans can’t get over that he would be our 3-4 best recruit in the 2023 class.
 
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Hawktj said:
No one questions Omaha has the far better potential In the long term (both college and pro), hence his 5 star rating. Better player in HS isn’t based on potential. In HS it’s all about the stats and winning In determining Mr. BB. Pryce has the edge in stats in virtually every category including rebounding and they won 2 of 3 in head to head. So to blame his winning on “voters who are old Iowa fans” Is like blaming officials for every loss (and yes we fans all do that). But, give Pryce his credit — he deserved to win. Additionally, Pryce will most likely be at Iowa for 4 years, Omaha a max of 2. So who is likely to have the better college career?
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Actually, a pretty thoughtful post. I agree with most of this. I take exception to the last sentence - a long career does not necessarily translate into a better career.
I do not think Omaha is a one and done, but 2 might be right.

The comparison gets complicated by Omaha’s various schools he played for.
Question - who had a better HS career Omaha or Milan M? I could easily argue Milan, even though he is not as highly rated.
 
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