Are we even a tournament team?
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The TCU game happened my man whether you like it or not...
North Carolina has lost 5 of its last 7.
Penn State has lost 8 of 14 but I am sure your eye test loves those wins at Minnesota and Ohio State.
Clemson has lost 4 of 6 including getting smashed at Louisville.
Also ignoring Texas Tech losing 10 of 12 renders the entire season pointless. Those games count.
New Mexico has lost 6 of 8 in the Mountain West
Non bubble?
Michigan State has lost 7 of its last 11 including that disaster today.
But yeah I get your "eye test" thinks Boise State beating absolutely no one is some how impressive.
Yup...I mentioned in some thread earlier I asked a bracket expert this week if ISU loses out what their floor would be. They said 7.
I think we lose out and get in, but it might be closer than many think. Experts had us as a 9 last year and ended up being an 11.
We can't lose 7 in a row to end the regular season.
Looks like 2001 Georgia had the worst record at 16-14 of any team to get an at-large bid. They got an 8 seed. 2017 Vanderbilt went 19-15 and got a 9 seed.
The 1992 Iowa State team still holds the record for having the worst conference record at 5-9 to receive an at large bid.
Teams seeded 8-12 are often interchangeable and sometimes are moved up or down to avoid a rematch. I can see this ISU team ending up with anywhere from a 6-12 seed depending on whether they pick up some more wins or not.
The 1992 Iowa State team still holds the record for having the worst conference record at 5-9 to receive an at large bid.
Teams seeded 8-12 are often interchangeable and sometimes are moved up or down to avoid a rematch. I can see this ISU team ending up with anywhere from a 6-12 seed depending on whether they pick up some more wins or not.
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The main difference being the overall resume.
So far this ISU team has 7 top 25 wins, and Iowa had 2 top 25 wins that season. Not to mention Iowa had worse losses.
Drake is playing well but I'd love to play them right now.
You keep saying they don't. I'm not arguing that. I just think you are being naive that a 17-14 team, finishing 3-12, and on a 7 game game losing streak would be "in" because of the Quad 1 wins and strength of schedule. I think there would be talks of "how good is Iowa State right now?" and there would be some dissent in the room.
I did some digging and the the last time a team was selected with a long losing streak, and a similar collapse, was Villanova in 2010-11. That team started 15-1, ended 21-11, and lost their last 5 games entering the tourney. Four were to ranked teams and the last was a 1 point loss at the beginning of the Big East tourney. For reference, the Big East was a pretty strong conference that year and Nova was awarded a 9 seed.
Potentially Iowa State could go in losing it's last 6, ending the year 3-12, and having an "ugly" record of 17-14. That Nova team finished the year 6-10 over their last 16 games where we could be 3-12 over our last 15. I can't speak for what the committee will do, but I think it's pretty dismissive to think such a streak possibly puts us in trouble.
Preferably this team doesn't put itself in that position.
You are right. I miscounted, it would be 6 if we were to lose the first game in the tournament. The only other team I could find on such a streak, that made the tournament, was the 2010-11 Nova team that lost 5 in a row (4 to ranked teams) to end the season. They were a 9 seed for reference.
So again...you are blatantly saying you think a losing streak at the end of the season means more than anything else that happened in the year...which is just laughably not true in any sense.
Wish I could do more than one Reaction emoji -- I chose "ha-ha" over "winner." Nicely done.
By my count, there have been 12 teams with 14 losses and only 1 team with 15 losses who have received an at large bid. That's going back around 50 years. So it happens only once every 4 years or so.
I hope some of you are right that Iowa State is a lock. If we lose out and make it with 14 losses, we will be doing something that doesn't happen too often.
I hope some of you are right that Iowa State is a lock. If we lose out and make it with 14 losses, we will be doing something that doesn't happen too often.
The only reason people are saying we are a lock is because those people are believing the ESPN hype. If we lose out, everyone will be nervous on selection Sunday.
Last year this thing predicted a 10 seed for ISU ended up being an 11.
Some of the brackets have already been update after today's loss and ISU sits at a 4
This is my reasoning for not worried about making the dance or dropping below 6.
Somebody give me a reason why we fall into a seeding below 7 or not making the dance.
Facts not emotion. Other teams are losing too ISU is not in some bubble not impacted by other teams results
Some of the brackets have already been update after today's loss and ISU sits at a 4
This is my reasoning for not worried about making the dance or dropping below 6.
Somebody give me a reason why we fall into a seeding below 7 or not making the dance.
Facts not emotion. Other teams are losing too ISU is not in some bubble not impacted by other teams results
3 of you have marked this as dumb so I have to ask which part of it was dumb
- missing the email with the deadline to order already?
- thinking this team will even get a home game in the NIT?
- adding a little humor/sarcasm in a 300 post thread on whether or not this team will make the tournament
