Fran McCaffery and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Transfer Portal

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I find it extremely ironic that Iowa fans are saying that winning by defense is awful and boring and won't last in basketball, yet they have no issue with that mentality in football where their team wins 8-10 games a year scoring only 5.2 touchdowns from their offense a year, total.
 

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I think he's the quintessential high floor low ceiling coach. He'll get you to the tourney but never do anything special. He got the BTT last year and good for him. I think he's a great offensive coach. I think he gets the most out of his talent.

How quickly we found out that this was quite a hollow accomplishment.
 

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I find it extremely ironic that Iowa fans are saying that winning by defense is awful and boring and won't last in basketball, yet they have no issue with that mentality in football where their team wins 8-10 games a year scoring only 5.2 touchdowns from their offense a year, total.

It's the thing that has lasted in both sports since forever.
 

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"Cyclone basketball sucks to watch because there's no offense and it's all defense" is a bold take when bragging about football. Brian isn't exactly setting the world on fire with his offenses.
 

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"Cyclone basketball sucks to watch because there's no offense and it's all defense" is a bold take when bragging about football. Brian isn't exactly setting the world on fire with his offenses.

The thing with Iowa bball is they try to look like they're playing defense and it's clear they've prepped well on it...they just can't do it. You can't have Bobo out there trying to stop the ball and expect it to happen.
 
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"Cyclone basketball sucks to watch because there's no offense and it's all defense" is a bold take when bragging about football. Brian isn't exactly setting the world on fire with his offenses.
But he is with his haircuts.
 

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The thing with Iowa bball is they try to look like they're playing defense and it's clear they've prepped well on it...they just can't do it. You can't have Bobo out there trying to stop the ball and expect it to happen.
According to Quinn Douglas, Bobo was a good defender when he wanted to be.
 

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The thing with Iowa bball is they try to look like they're playing defense and it's clear they've prepped well on it...they just can't do it. You can't have Bobo out there trying to stop the ball and expect it to happen.
If Fran could work the portal and got them to play just average defense, the Iowa bball program could be pretty dang solid.
 

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If Fran could work the portal and got them to play just average defense, the Iowa bball program could be pretty dang solid.
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I don't disagree with this, but couldn't you say this applies to something like 90% of college sports fans?
Most fans are largely only watching their team, regardless of style play.

If style of play is so important, then why aren't Grinnell basketball games sold out and broadcast on ESPN?

I will disagree that if TJ continues to run a defense heavy style, and ISU wins, goes to Sweet 16s, etc, that ISU fans will suddenly stop watching. Hilton will still be sold out. Fans will travel in waves to KC, NCAA sites, etc.

Winning is biggest (maybe only?) factor for fans.

Of course and I think it's really only becoming more locked in that way. If it's not a top 25 matchup playing a fun style, ISU, or a Big 12 team, I'm probably not watching. But I'm especially not watching a grindball team.
 

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I agree with the first part, but not the second. Hard to call it luck when it keeps happening.

I’ll give Fran credit with Garza. He was a nice recruit but he also went outside the program to develop. The Murray brothers were waived in Frans face by their father.

All three of those players developed outside of the program, not because of Fran. Without the Iowa connection Fran NEVER would have even offered Keegan and Kris.
 

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Getting lucky is part of it. He's recruited quite well at this point. He would have made 4 straight tournaments had it not been for COVID which is pretty good for that program.

Fran has done a good job always having a volume scorer but to say that he has done quite well recruiting is something...
 

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As unpopular as this opinion may be, I still would not have traded Steve Prohm for Fran McCaffery. Obviously not a discussion point any more, but it seems like Fran is not adapting to todays basketball landscape as well as most, and not even close to what TJ is doing/capable of.

I made the mistake of going over to the hok site too.....god, I regret that.
 
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