Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

[alarson]

It is undeniable that these players have market value. That is why NIL/pay-to-lay is so ominous to us. 200k will be $2 million soon because fans want better chances of winning and will pay it at most places.

It is not dissimilar to coaches. ISU can find any high school coach pay him 75k and have the possibility of going 2-22. Revenue doesn't change that much in near term. But we overpay for that extra edge in what we think is a better coach, even though there are no guarantees he will be good.

Players just aren't commoditized.

Brand and revenue is built on having consistently better players.

They have a market value. But their individual market value is far lower than the garbage being thrown out there right now. That is, instead, the market value of those schools being shared with the athletes. If you want to establish a truer market value, look at say the G league entry level salary, and then realize that 99% of athletes arent even good enough to be making that. And then compare that to the total compensation package schools were throwing at athletes pre-NIL, which was often more than they could make professionally.

Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of athletes who are nowhere near pro levels. We're on our way to destroying the model for them too.

 

[Trice]

Seriously. The offer is a great one. Hell, there are a massive line of students every year who would love to take that offer if these particular ones went and found other opportunities.

It's just such a depressing place we're in right now. I think there's a not insubstantial number of people who are just going to check out.

 

[aeroclone]

No salary cap free agency. And we are a bottom 10% revenue market in the power conferences

I'm watching my interest in college sports fade right before my eyes. Why watch minor league sports when the pros are right there already? alarson nailed it, the value has always been the schools and the attachment of the fans to those schools. Hard to feel attached to a bunch of mercenaries who are just here for a year to audition for the next best thing.

 

[WhoISthis]

I hear you but we are going to be taking a big hit on potential tv revenue next renewal which someone is going to have to also buffer that. I think the point is we don’t have a bunch of oil tycoons sitting around.

Latest projection is not a big hit, and the last item you cut is spending on the most important input. Building costs on quickly outdated lockerrooms are on the books for along time, just another reason why buying players the most favorable way to improve your revenue. 200k for a pg is a lot cheaper than pissing money away on infrastructure hoping that same player will be impressed enough.

 

[alarson]

It's just such a depressing place we're in right now. I think there's a not insubstantial number of people who are just going to check out.

I can feel myself becoming one of them. Hell, about the only reason I subscribe to a cable or streaming package with the traditional networks is for college games. So at least I'll save some money there.

 

[Rabbuk]

I'm watching my interest in college sports fade right before my eyes. Why watch minor league sports when the pros are right there already? alarson nailed it, the value has always been the schools and the attachment of the fans to those schools. Hard to feel attached to a bunch of mercenaries who are just here for a year to audition for the next best thing.

Yeah I'm probably done watching college sports. With pro sports the contract lengths are knowable. I roughly know day to day who will suit up for the bulls.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I'm watching my interest in college sports fade right before my eyes. Why watch minor league sports when the pros are right there already? alarson nailed it, the value has always been the schools and the attachment of the fans to those schools. Hard to feel attached to a bunch of mercenaries who are just here for a year to audition for the next best thing.

Are you telling me you didn’t enjoy watching brockerton help lead you to the sweet 16? Because I loved watching K9 lead us to an 11 win football season

 

[HFCS]

They have a market value. But their individual market value is far lower than the garbage being thrown out there right now. That is, instead, the market value of those schools being shared with the athletes. If you want to establish a truer market value, look at say the G league entry level salary, and then realize that 99% of athletes arent even good enough to be making that. And then compare that to the total compensation package schools were throwing at athletes pre-NIL, which was often more than they could make professionally.

Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of athletes who are nowhere near pro levels. We're on our way to destroying the model for them too.

Yep, it’s a house of cards.

Especially in football it could become a small regional thing, national interest craters, then streaming/tv revenue implodes.

College sports is 99% cheering for the brand. I have my pro teams but if I’m just tuning into see players I’m going to completely ignore college sports.

College basketball in particular is a garbage product without the university brands compared to pro game (with the exception of the tourney format making those first four days in March fun). It’s basically people who love their school (read tuition and tax payer funded brand) or have some messed up reason they’ve never watched NBA playoff basketball.

 

[mynameisjonas]

It’s easy to say “I’m done” in April. Not so easy in August and November.

 

[alarson]

Hard to feel attached to a bunch of mercenaries who are just here for a year to audition for the next best thing.

Yeah, a very good point. So much of the enjoyment of college sports is in the guys who are there for the long term who build a connection with the university\fans, and fans likewise have a connection to those players. Or there's the opposite- the guys you learn to love to hate because theyve been at another school for what feels like forever. Sure, there have always been shorter-term guys, but its those 4 year guys who have always been the heart of college sports.

Even pre-NIL, we've seen this starting to become a thing as the transfer restrictions have been removed, and its felt less and less enjoyable. We've seen people talking about it in tourney threads how things just aren't as engaging. NIL just puts rockets on that.

 

[IASTATE07]

It’s easy to say “I’m done” in April. Not so easy in August and November.

Lots of posters saying that are full of ****.

 

[Trice]

I can feel myself becoming one of them. Hell, about the only reason I subscribe to a cable or streaming package with the traditional networks is for college games. So at least I'll save some money there.

I know it sounds corny, but making these kids a part of the community and watching them grow is a big part of the attraction of college sports. This massive roster turnover every year kills any continuity and is pretty nerve-wracking.

I'm with you, I can envision myself moving on if this is the path we're going down.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Considering a one year transfer was a major part of your basketball team exceeding all expectations and making the sweet 16 I’m kinda shocked this many people are talking about no longer watching their team

 

[Bigman38]

I'll just never understand how we got to a place where the value of a totally free college education with enormous amenities for athletes is has zero value in terms of compensation.

Who’s saying that? With NIL it’s obvious some of these players are worth a lot more than that.

 

[baagoe]

It’s easy to say “I’m done” in April. Not so easy in August and November.

And a lot easier to say you’re done after a gut punch like this. Say we get AJ Green two weeks later and I would guess a lot of these people would be a lot less done.

 

[alarson]

Who’s saying that? With NIL it’s obvious some of these players are worth a lot more than that.

So they should go make that. Somewhere else where they think they'll be better compensated. And not ruin something that was working for 99.9999% of everyone else.

 

[Trice]

Who’s saying that? With NIL it’s obvious some of these players are worth a lot more than that.

Nowhere in any conversation of player compensation does anyone who advocates for players to be paid acknowledge that they already get a benefits package that exceeds most players' value in a free market.

Some do have higher values, no argument there. But the idea that they were getting no compensation before really bothers me.

 

[Bigman38]

So they should go make that. Somewhere else where they think they'll be better compensated. And not ruin something that was working for 99.9999% of everyone else.

Who was it working for? If their worth that much they should get paid, they shouldn't have to go anywhere. If you were worth that much to your employer you wouldn't settle for a fraction of it either, no one should.

 

[alarson]

Who was it working for? If their worth that much they should get paid, they shouldn't have to go anywhere. If you were worth that much to your employer you wouldn't settle for a fraction of it either, no one should.

In which case, you'd go find a new employer.

Plenty of employers, especially near the entry level pay everyone working a certain job the same rate. Higher performers who feel they are worth more are free to seek opportunities elsewhere.

 

[Stormin]

Any chance the Tyrese to NC for $750k rumor might have been started intentionally by Tyrese’s camp? Float that figure out there. Enter the Portal. See what nibbles you get. Plus see if Iowa State coughs up the NIL money wanted. Then Tyrese stays. If not, other offers on the table to consider.