*** Official IOWA STATE vs #14 Texas Tech Game(Day) Thread ***

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Brockington looks like he has dead ass legs. Nobody else on this team can create their own shot.
Brockington must have made a deal with the devil before the West Virginia game. He has been a shadow of himself since then.
 

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Yeah, I don't get that at all. I see that Tech team and want us to be carbon copies. They are RELENTLESS. Those guys have no business being that good, but they're incredible. Their effort is unmatched and they just will the ball into the hoop. Adams is easy to respect. I have no issues rooting for them to go a long ways in March and the fact we somehow held on to beat them (while depleted) in Ames is definitely our best win of the year.
Adams is not a good guy.
 

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No leave Grill out, a least without his pi$$ poor excuse for defense TTU hadn't scored for while.
He is a liability out there. Like, literally I don't know how his playing time can be justified when his shot isn't falling. Our defense and rebounding take massive hits when he's out there. Watch the tape, whenever there is an offensive rebound or wide open shot for the opposing team, it is because he either got beat or missed an assignment. He has no ball handling ability either. Just a total disaster when he isn't making shots. It is plainly obvious that he can't play consistently well at this level, and has shown why he was originally committing to play in the Summit League out of HS.
 

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Effort was poor again...seeing poor effort way too much still
The belief that was so vital early on has started to wain. The players looked a little distant and vacant from the opening tip tonight. I do think they'll come out ready to play next week though.
 

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TJ will get talent here. He did a great job getting Hunter to recommit, landing Brockington, and he was able to recruit well as an assistant under multiple coaches. My worry is Brockington sounds like he’s a real tone setter and worker in practice. He will really hard to replace in games and as a leader.
Has Brockington indicated he's not coming back? He has another year left.

And honestly tonight's an example of why he should. He still has some things to work on in his game.
 

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Has Brockington indicated he's not coming back? He has another year left.

And honestly tonight's an example of why he should. He still has some things to work on in his game.
I think Brockington is a great player and team mate. Amazing numbers on the season - leading scorer and rebounder. A warrior. TT took him out of the game.They were taller, longer, stronger and played super hard. Hard to scheme your way out of that.
It was a significant physical mismatch across the board - including IB. I think they are an extremely hard match up for many teams / especially one offensively challenged. When you cannot shoot, and the other team knows it, there is not much penalty for the defense being overly aggressive. If they go for the steal and do not get it you must make them pay by scoring. We cannot. Not many teams can copy the TT game plan. I would not be surprised if we win a game in the dance.
 
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Oh we can win alright. I think we can beat anyone in the country, but we seem to be a team that can get smoked by Wartburg.

teams that struggle shooting don't make good tournament teams. I am just picturing us drawing the 8/9 seed and playing first thing on thursday and going like 1-23 from 3,

I wouldn't go this far.
 

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I get the feeling people have just decided to ignore TJ's recruiting history at ISU.
Especially when that was his big selling feature when he was hired.

Even the staunchest defenders were like he’s not a great X’s and O’s guy, but he sure can recruit.

If he ends up not working out here, it certainly won’t be because he couldn’t get dudes.
 
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Especially when that was his big selling feature when he was hired.

Even the staunchest defenders were like he’s not a great X’s and O’s guy, but he sure can recruit.

If he ends up not working out here, it certainly won’t be because he couldn’t get dudes.

I keep saying it but put even a poor man's Niang at the top kicking off the offense with better shooters off the wing and the 'what is ISU even doing!?' stuff would likely go away.
 

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I keep saying it but put even a poor man's Niang at the top kicking off the offense with better shooters off the wing and the 'what is ISU even doing!?' stuff would likely go away.
I mean, I’m cool with the sacrificing offense to guard the hell out of people “habits” being the culture of the program

But there has to be more than one and a half guys that can initiate an offensive set. I mean who on this current roster, other than Brock and Tyrese, would play at all on any other team in this league?

That’s why I’m wondering how people can be so up in arms. This was never a one year turnaround. Let’s see what happens with a couple of full off-seasons to bring in guys

If we’re still this overmatched in 2024, then people can be concerned
 

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Day after (and hungover post): last night sucked. They put both guns up.... right up our back side and pulled the trigger.

We can argue all we want about the spectrum of fans looking between 2 wins last year vs. 20 wins a NCAA bid this year.

Put me in the middle of that. Fingers crossed the feeling of not playing a B12 team in the NCAA for the round of 64, is enough to get this team back to what they can be. I hope last night wasn't too deflating.
Because even with me being in the middle of that spectrum, if we somehow get a NCAA win, even if it's just one this year, then there is no arguing this year was ok.

Hope our guys can flush last night and go back to work.
 

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Day after (and hungover post): last night sucked. They put both guns up.... right up our back side and pulled the trigger.

We can argue all we want about the spectrum of fans looking between 2 wins last year vs. 20 wins a NCAA bid this year.

Put me in the middle of that. Fingers crossed the feeling of not playing a B12 team in the NCAA for the round of 64, is enough to get this team back to what they can be. I hope last night wasn't too deflating.
Because even with me being in the middle of that spectrum, if we somehow get a NCAA win, even if it's just one this year, then there is no arguing this year was ok.

Hope our guys can flush last night and go back to work.

ISU has had more talented teams not get 20 wins or not win an NCAA tourney game so anyone should be elated with a win with this roster if it happens.

And if not, there's still an NCAA tournament to watch and lots to start doing outside in the spring.
 

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I mean, I’m cool with the sacrificing offense to guard the hell out of people “habits” being the culture of the program

But there has to be more than one and a half guys that can initiate an offensive set. I mean who on this current roster, other than Brock and Tyrese, would play at all on any other team in this league?

That’s why I’m wondering how people can be so up in arms. This was never a one year turnaround. Let’s see what happens with a couple of full off-seasons to bring in guys

If we’re still this overmatched in 2024, then people can be concerned

ISU was doing well early with great chemistry and it was pretty obvious how limited they were in most aspects so the 'what happened!?' calls are pretty baffling.