Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

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You probably have a life.
Essentially nothing is concrete when people say things like "quad 1 wins" until the end of the year.
Sort of. It's more accurate than AP top-25 wins or something along that nature. It doesn't help Iowa that the Big 10 as a whole this year is down as far as Q1 wins go, but to the common person you see 13-5 and think "hey that's not that bad".
 

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You probably have a life.
Essentially nothing is concrete when people say things like "quad 1 wins" until the end of the year.

Thing is, Iowa is in the tournament even without a single quad one win as long as they can win the games they are supposed to. Another loss or two like last night and they would be out.
 
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Problem with Bohannon is not the cold shooting night. It’s that he does absolutely nothing else. Hardly any shot attempts inside the arc and is averaging like 1 assist and 1 rebound. How a guard averages one assist when leading scorer in the country is on the floor with him is just crazy. Also a liability on defense. Si when he’s not shooting well he brings nothing else to the floor.

He’s nearly 40% three point shooter though so even if he’s cold he still needs to be taking the shots if he has good looks. There is a difference between not hunting shots because you’re not feeling it and passing on good looks when you are a 3 point specialist. I’ve said same thing about GK and he does not have the career shooting stats Jorbo does.
 

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Iowa gets Penn State at home next. Penn State is bad but is scrappy. They did beat Rutgers by 17 but like Rutgers lost UMASS.

Christ almighty Iowa’s schedule is a joke though. When they play Purdue next Thursday that’d be 3 weeks between Q1 teams. 5 days later they play OSU, but then have 19 days until they play another Q1 and then another 12 after that.
That's life in the B1G.
 
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Thing is, Iowa is in the tournament even without a single quad one win as long as they can win the games they are supposed to. Another loss or two like last night and they would be out.
Agree. But if they only get to 20-21 wins and next to zero Quad 1 it’s very possible they don’t. The good news for them is that their schedule is soft and can pad their win total. The bad news is that they don’t have a ton of opportunity for signature wins. They need to get one of Purdue, Michigan State, Ohio State. or Illinois.
 

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He's not ready to sell insurance to Marion-area Hawk fans for his dad's company.

"Hi. This is Jorbo with Bohannon Insurance"
"That was great when you left your shoes at Hilton"
"I know. I'm awesome"
"I'll take another term life policy from the Bohannon agency"
"Go Hawks! Clowns suck!"
"Go Hawks! Clowns suck!"
You give Jorbo too much credit......

"Hi, I'm Jordan from Door Dash. Here's your food, nice and warm. Have a nice day!"
 
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Sort of. It's more accurate than AP top-25 wins or something along that nature. It doesn't help Iowa that the Big 10 as a whole this year is down as far as Q1 wins go, but to the common person you see 13-5 and think "hey that's not that bad".
I just mean it's constantly changing. Iowa could have 2 just with what they've done so far because I could see Indiana in to 30 or Virginia top 75 realistically by seasons end. Yes something are definte. You beat Kansas and you can pretty much assume that will stay a Quad 1 win
 

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I don't think Jordan will ever play competitive basketball after this year. He is really seeing how hard it is to get a clean look without Garza and Wieskamp demanding all the attention. When he does get a clean look, I think he is too anxious and then misses the few attempts he gets.
I agree with this. You could also argue Jordan doesn't play competitive basketball even now.
 

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You probably have a life.
Essentially nothing is concrete when people say things like "quad 1 wins" until the end of the year.

I mean yes and no. By the end of the month You won't see the larger daily swings you are seeing now either. Other than Indiana, Iowa doesn't have another win that is even a borderline Q1 win.
 

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Thing is, Iowa is in the tournament even without a single quad one win as long as they can win the games they are supposed to. Another loss or two like last night and they would be out.
If Iowa wins the games they're supposed to, they likely get 8 more wins which will be 21. With no Q1 wins or possibly 1, you're looking at a play in game at the 11 seed line.
 

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I mean yes and no. By the end of the month You won't see the larger daily swings you are seeing now either. Other than Indiana, Iowa doesn't have another win that is even a borderline Q1 win.
I think Virginia is realistic. They're 92 now but it's easier to move when you're further down. They almost always gett better as conference season goes on
 

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If Iowa wins the games they're supposed to, they likely get 8 more wins which will be 21. With no Q1 wins or possibly 1, you're looking at a play in game at the 11 seed line.

Nah, they will be firmly in, the bubble is going to be incredibly weak this year. The ACC looks like a 2 bid league which is insane.
 

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I just mean it's constantly changing. Iowa could have 2 just with what they've done so far because I could see Indiana in to 30 or Virginia top 75 realistically by seasons end. Yes something are definte. You beat Kansas and you can pretty much assume that will stay a Quad 1 win
Virginia is bad and the ACC is bad. They're not going to have enough Q1 wins themselves to boost up to the top-75.
 

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I think Virginia is realistic. They're 92 now but it's easier to move when you're further down. They almost always gett better as conference season goes on
Their Q1 opportunities left are @ Miami, @ VT, vs. FSU and Duke twice. The other teams are all 100+ and you can't lose more than one of those essentially. It's not impossible but I'd say it's going to be extremely tough for them to reach 75 or better.
 

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Agree. But if they only get to 20-21 wins and next to zero Quad 1 it’s very possible they don’t. The good news for them is that their schedule is soft and can pad their win total. The bad news is that they don’t have a ton of opportunity for signature wins. They need to get one of Purdue, Michigan State, Ohio State. or Illinois.
Big 10 bias will ensure Iowa would get in without a Q1 win (if that happens). Say Iowa doesn't get a Q1 win but still finished, Idk, 10-8 or 9-9 in the Big 10. They'll get their ticket punched. This isn't the PAC 12 or Big 12 we're talking about here. The Big 10 is constantly rewarded for mediocrity.
 

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Their Q1 opportunities left are @ Miami, @ VT, vs. FSU and Duke twice. The other teams are all 100+ and you can't lose more than one of those essentially. It's not impossible but I'd say it's going to be extremely tough for them to reach 75 or better.
We will revisit this if I'm right
 

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