Yeah, I only pay for the remote service the months when it’s cold and snowy.
Windows 11
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Pretty sure I tried that one but maybe didn't dig deep enough into it. It is on my list along with Mint to try next time I get some free time to mess with that box again.
Ford was doing the same thing for a while but has since made the phone services free of charge...for now.
I use the fob start way more often than the phone app, but there are select times when the phone app (and it's built-in GPS) are handy.
Microsoft Windows Operating Systems for PCs
MS-DOS – Microsoft Disk Operating System (1981) ... stolen from IBM
Windows 1.0 – 2.0 (1985-1992) ... the best crap ever
Windows 3.0 – 3.1 (1990-1994) ... the best ever con. WHAR OS/2 development partnership with IBM? 3.1 was the stab in the back to IBM. Cunning, though totally unethical move by MS. Let's not forget, Lotus, WordStar and DBase are the demand for MS. But, to MS credit, they're riding this self propagating wave of mass addiction.
Windows 95 (August 1995) ... cosmetic, but some incremental move towards stability. Let's not forget beginnings of Office (all purchased and packaged as one by MS) driving even more need for the OS.
Windows NT 3.1 – 4.0 (1993 – 1996) ... Hired 'Digital' guy to lead development, but still had crappy 'Windows' business model dragging it down
Windows 98 (June 1998) ... cosmetic
Windows ME – Millennium Edition (September 2000) ... oh geez
Windows 2000 (February 2000) ... some stability in the core
Windows XP (October 2001) ... the great marketing era
Windows Vista (November 2006) ... cosmetic blunder
Windows 7 (October, 2009) ... more cosmetic blunder
Windows 8 ... get the point
Windows 10 ... Finally, something with stability and foresight.
Windows 11 ... Excuse me if I can't get on yet another hype train.
MS-DOS – Microsoft Disk Operating System (1981) ... stolen from IBM
Windows 1.0 – 2.0 (1985-1992) ... the best crap ever
Windows 3.0 – 3.1 (1990-1994) ... the best ever con. WHAR OS/2 development partnership with IBM? 3.1 was the stab in the back to IBM. Cunning, though totally unethical move by MS. Let's not forget, Lotus, WordStar and DBase are the demand for MS. But, to MS credit, they're riding this self propagating wave of mass addiction.
Windows 95 (August 1995) ... cosmetic, but some incremental move towards stability. Let's not forget beginnings of Office (all purchased and packaged as one by MS) driving even more need for the OS.
Windows NT 3.1 – 4.0 (1993 – 1996) ... Hired 'Digital' guy to lead development, but still had crappy 'Windows' business model dragging it down
Windows 98 (June 1998) ... cosmetic
Windows ME – Millennium Edition (September 2000) ... oh geez
Windows 2000 (February 2000) ... some stability in the core
Windows XP (October 2001) ... the great marketing era
Windows Vista (November 2006) ... cosmetic blunder
Windows 7 (October, 2009) ... more cosmetic blunder
Windows 8 ... get the point
Windows 10 ... Finally, something with stability and foresight.
Windows 11 ... Excuse me if I can't get on yet another hype train.
We're reaching the personal rankings of operating systems portion of the thread. Hold your butts!
I used OS/2 for many years. It worked great and it was quite stable. But I knew it was dead as soon as NT 4.0 came out. Simple example as to why...setting up network card in NT 4 required typing some numbers into a slick GUI dialog box and clicking "OK". In OS/2, it required editing a bunch of text files, stopping/restarting stuff etc. No way users were going to for the latter.
OS/2 may have worked better, but NT 4.0 had the required "lipstick on a pig" for the masses in the form of a slick (for that time) GUI that appeared to make things easier. OS/2 had a decent GUI, but so many things were unix-like in that editing of text configuration files was required to manages system services.
A bit unrelated: but I'm on the market for a new work laptop. Really feeling the Surface Laptop 4, wish it had a USBC charger and a num pad, but can live without.
Any one know when they put their stuff on big sales? Do they do big sales? I'm willing to wait until a Black Friday / Cyber Monday type event, but am unfamiliar with how they do things.
Any one know when they put their stuff on big sales? Do they do big sales? I'm willing to wait until a Black Friday / Cyber Monday type event, but am unfamiliar with how they do things.
The Laptop 4 supports charging over USB C though it might be maxed out at 20W? I would have to check.
They do Black Friday Weekend including Cyber Monday usually. Then they have a December long sale following usually.
Best deal is if you know a Microsoft employee as they offer pretty crazy deals during the holidays for employees and temporary lift the buy limit they have, though curious what this year will do with the chip shortage.
Not sure if this is the place to put it or not, but due to the weather I've been catching a good bit of TV the last couple weeks and I'm no marketing expert but if Microsoft wants to buy as much time as they have to promote W11, maybe create a rotation of commercials instead of just that incredibly irritating "It all starts now" one they are screeching every fifteen minutes on the tube.
Thank you for the info kind sir! Now to track me down a Microsoft employee.... yeah I don't know any. I'll do the Black Friday/Cyber Monday thing.
I knew you could charge through the USB-C. I'm saying Id rather they replace the random useless dongle port with another actually useful port such as a second USB-C. I won't cry over it. I'm having more issues with the lack of numeric pad. I actually use mine a lot. Doesn't matter in the office, because I use a wireless keyboard. So not a deal breaker.
Antivirus software.. Do I pay for a subscription or use the free Windows defender for personal computing?
Mainly this is a laptop to be used for family email, zoom, streaming etc
Mainly this is a laptop to be used for family email, zoom, streaming etc
Personally I pay for a Norton 360 subscription. I feel Symantec is a top notch product. If you get the Deluxe version its like $50 a year for up to 5 devices and comes with 50 GB of cloud storage. Even just their base package for 1 device is $20 a year with 20 GB of cloud
Norton 360 Deluxe | $55 Off for the First Year of Subscription
They always offer "discounts" when it is time to renew too so don't pay attention to that $104.99 that is crossed out, I have never paid close to that. Plus when you have a subscription it automatically updates to the newest version for free when they release one.
You basically hit every thing I thought when I first booted up a Windows 11 laptop tonight for the 1st time. I do desktop support for my job and if this is what our users will have to go through eventually for their experience it is going to be a nightmare to support. Windows 10 has been a very stable OS in my opinion and while I like how quick Windows 11 loads up all the other major changes Microsoft did to the start menu and interface is going to be frustrating to get used to for our less technical users. I plan to dig around and try to customize the "feel" of Windows 11 for the person I am setting up this laptop for but I have a bad feeling its going to be a lot of change for this person even after trying to adjust things to interact like they are used to.
Came across this and I have to agree with everything this guy says including the stupid hardware requirements they put in that make some fairly new CPUs "incompatible" for Windows 11. I have a PC that should be able to run Windows 11 easily but does not have TPM and an i7 processor that is not a new enough generation.
Now there is a way to get around that I found:
I am in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 11 at home as I have a bad feeling they eventually will try to close up that loophole and not support machines that used that bypass to install Windows 11. I believe Windows 10 is supported into 2025 so I will probably wait until around then and just buy a new PC at that point as by then I will be in the market for some new hardware.
Back to the first video, the default browser settings and the start menu were the 1st 2 things I found annoying too while setting up a new Windows 11 laptop for a friend. Just felt like M$ has either over-simplified certain things while hiding or complicating the crap out of certain Windows features that most people like to use.
The 1 good thing I have to say about it though is the boot up time from power up to login screen is SUPER fast. That's about the 1 good thing they have improved in 11 that is going to be nice but they also changed up enough other things to annoy the hell out of you too.
Now there is a way to get around that I found:
I am in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 11 at home as I have a bad feeling they eventually will try to close up that loophole and not support machines that used that bypass to install Windows 11. I believe Windows 10 is supported into 2025 so I will probably wait until around then and just buy a new PC at that point as by then I will be in the market for some new hardware.
Back to the first video, the default browser settings and the start menu were the 1st 2 things I found annoying too while setting up a new Windows 11 laptop for a friend. Just felt like M$ has either over-simplified certain things while hiding or complicating the crap out of certain Windows features that most people like to use.
The 1 good thing I have to say about it though is the boot up time from power up to login screen is SUPER fast. That's about the 1 good thing they have improved in 11 that is going to be nice but they also changed up enough other things to annoy the hell out of you too.
