Similar situation with BYU. As much as we hear about their LGBT issues and not playing on Sundays, they’re also an R2 school.
Pac-12 to decide whether to expand within a couple weeks
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If the PAC is smart they make sure they negotiate first. Hit up CBS, Fox and the streamers. See if CBS will go to 150-200 MM to replace the SEC stuff. The early games could be filled with the big XII teams. That is 20-25 MM that the big XII could bring. Now add the big XII teams to the PACN, you are going to gain 3-6 MM per team I’m guessing. That now says the big XII teams are worth 25-30 to add. If you can find a way to have them grind out 5-10 MM then you can offer the big XII 35 MM/year and you most likely will get a bump for the better supply of bigger matchups with OSU, ISU and such with the bigger Pac teams.
It’s not actually a pipe. It is a painting of a pipe (or in this case a digital image).
It is a “model” of a pipe, not the real thing.
Magritte is pretty famous. I didn’t link because there are explanations online.
Although also known as This is Not a Pipe, it is titled “The Travesty of Images.”
But again he painted hundreds of pipes. In the only exhibit I saw, I recall one painting with a half a dozen pipes or more with the French words for “This is not a pipe” below each of them.
Although also known as This is Not a Pipe, it is titled “The Travesty of Images.”
But again he painted hundreds of pipes. In the only exhibit I saw, I recall one painting with a half a dozen pipes or more with the French words for “This is not a pipe” below each of them.
Yes, I got it…because his probability models operate inside “risk” and not the “uncertainty”, allowing for the unknown which he is steadfastly against in all his posts.
Ok. Back on track. How many schools would you consider viable as a new level of CFB? After starting with that number, what schools make it? And, then of course, the billion dollar question: how long does it take for these schools to lose interest because they're no longer the 'elite'?
What is the source? And motivation? Therein lies the credibility of the number. And even that is based on what perspective you're looking at the number from.
Food for thought: if this were going to get litigated, why on earth would Bowlsby say the valuation wasn't damaged? The course he took sets up for punitive damages much greater than contract obligation. That said, 'silence' would, imo, have still been the best option.
OU is easily better than UF and LSU and its not close.
I believe Baylor is on track to become an R1 research institution by 2024. TCU on the other hand has no interest in getting there. But Baylor will be.
I think Baylor is harmed more by its cultural and religious affiliations as well as its AD baggage otherwise with respect to getting into the Pac-12. I think TCU and maybe even Houston would be ahead of Baylor in the Pac-12 pecking order if the conference was dead set on getting multiple Texas schools along with Tech.
I continue to think Tech, OSU, KU, and ISU are the most likely picks to join what will be a Pac-16 - IF the league decides to expand. That will be a huge piece of news.
It would be strange to have the Pac-16 at that point be the "winner" in terms of reuniting the plurality of the Big 8. It would have the three new additions plus CU. The SEC would have OU and MU. The B1G would have NU. And poor KSU would be in some American-type league.
I can give you OU is better than Florida, but no way they are better then LSU. Last time OU won a title was in Stoops first couple of years, LSU won the title a couple of years ago.
LSU has to play and beat Alabama every year to get to the conference championship game, while OU only as UT, OSU and ISU.
OU has never won a playoff game, they are the large fish in the small pond. Historically good program, that has not won a title in a couple of decades. The fall of UT has allowed them to shine in the Big 12, how many division championships would they have if they switched places with LSU? One maybe in the last 10 years?
So, Baylor, TCU & TTU have been irrelevant and non-existent in the B12? If I recall, each one of those schools has had at least one or two good seasons over the past few years. A lot of short terms memories here.
TV ratings say at least ISU and OSU would. People need to keep in mind that PAC has a pretty low bar, ISU and OSUs viewership even without accounting for post season and Oklahoma and Texas games was nearly that of Oregon and USC. They smoked the rest of the PAC in viewership.
People also need to realize what a low bar there is to say a game brings value. MAC and Sun Belt games get televised, so all inventory has some value. If those games have enough value to put on TV at all, a team like ISU that can draw like that has significant value. Is it enough to boost per team revenue? Well, ISU and OSU would draw greater than 80% of USCs viewership and almost 90% of Oregon’s. There’s no conferences outside the top tier that have anything close to this. As a comparison, accounting for similar games, Iowa drew less than 30% of Ohio State and less than 40% of PSU, Michigan and Wisconsin.
So you are making two contradictory arguments, that ISU wouldn’t add to a per team value in the PAC, yet want to pretend that the MSUs and Iowa’s do.
Yes, they were, and they won the title the year before. LSU has won four national titles in football the last three coming in 2003, 2007 and 2019. The AP list titles for OU in 2000, 1985 and 1975.
Which school has to go through Alabama to get the title game, and which doesn't?
The problem with throwing out the HISTORY idea, is how far back do you go. If you want to say all time history, then schools like Minnesota, Army and Navy are all time greats, but none of the three have been relative in the sports for decades. OU won the title in 2000 and was destroyed in the championship game by USC is 2004. Its been a long time since OU won anything other than a conference title.
FBS Football Championship History | NCAA.com
20% of that would simply be the impact of going from 10 schools to 8, leaving ~30% attributable to the brand strength of UT and OU.
Here's a list of the R1 research universities. All B12 schools sans Baylor and TCU are on it.
en.wikipedia.org
Here's the USNews academic rankings.
List of research universities in the United States - Wikipedia
Here's the USNews academic rankings.
- University of Texas—Austin: 42 (tie)
- Baylor University: 76 (tie)
- Texas Christian University: 80 (tie)
- Iowa State University: 118 (tie)
- University of Kansas: 124 (tie)
- University of Oklahoma: 133 (tie)
- Kansas State University: 170 (tie)
- Oklahoma State University: 187 (tie)
- Texas Tech University: 217 (tie)
- West Virginia University: 241 (tie)
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This. Saying OU dwarfs LSU is delusion. That Joe Burrow LSU team might've been the best college football team I've seen in my lifetime.
