Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[theshadow]

Let's apples-to-apples the men's sports situation.

The Big 12 offers 10 men's sports.

Of those 10, here's what the lineup of B1G schools looks like:
10 - Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue
9 - Illinois, Nebraska, Wisconsin
8 - Iowa, Rutgers
7 - Northwestern
6 - Maryland

Now, compare it to the Big 12 lineup:
9 - Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas
8 - Baylor, Texas Tech
7 - Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State
6 - West Virginia

 

[Tornado man]

The Big 10 does split track into two different seasons. So we would be at 7. Move the hockey team from a Club sport to a scholarship sport and it would get us to 8. Or add back some sports we have dropped over the years, like baseball.

Yeah, if we had hockey right now, in the NCHA, Iowa State's name would light up like neon to the Big Ten honchos.
You'd have Minnesota, Wisky, Mich State on the phones lobbying for us.

 

[RealisticCy]

Does it cost very much to add rifle? Could get some walk on participants from our student body

Take a red canoe up to Ada Hayden......boom, we've got women's rowing and 20 schollies to offset the added men's sports.

 

[aeroclone]

We would need to have had more sports to be considered for the Big Ten IMO. Having just 6 men's sports seems so minor league.

You think in all of this it really matters that we aren't currently offering men's gymnastics? Ha. Let the conferences sort out membership for football and TV money and they will do whatever needs to occur with the irrelevant sports. Number of Olympic sports that play in empty venues and lose money has absolutely zero influence on how this all plays out.

 

[besserheimerphat]

Why not be the Pac 16 option for midwestern kids.

Because the Pac XX / American west is a different animal culturally than the midwest. Same with East coast/ACC and southeast/SEC. There are 2 midwest leagues - the B1G and Big 12. You can "go away" to college anywhere from Ohio to Nebraska, and the Canadian border to Oklahoma, and still kind of feel like you are at home. I think that's important. The Pac12 is already kind of a weird cultural mixed bag with CO, AZ, SoCal and the PNW.

 

[2speedy1]

whether or not ISU is in the big 10 I will still hate that conference.

If ISU did join, I would like to see Rutgers and Maryland go where they belong….ACC.

Then the big 10 add ISU, KU, KSU and one other big 12 team.

In a perfect world this..... let the other Big 12 team be Ok St, or even better Mizzu.
ISU,KU,KSU,MU to the B1G and Rutgers, Maryland to ACC or just go to 18.

OOF how nice is that. It will Never happen, but damn that would be fun, old rivalries, new rivalries, New and old conference mates, All close, and easy drives, except for a few of the B1G East crossover games.

 

[JM4CY]

Take a red canoe up to Ada Hayden......boom, we've got women's rowing and 20 schollies to offset the added men's sports.

No way. Skunk River baby is where it’s at!! #skunkrivernavy4life

 

[2speedy1]

Correct. UT is a cancer/drama queen wherever they've been. Killed the Southwest Conference. Attached themselves as a lifeline to the Big 8 and have managed to kill their host here. SEC may make the $$$ but their behind the scenes stuff is going to turn into a reality television show. Count on it!

Texas will be a typical spoiled brat in the SEC, not getting their way. But the SEC wont cater to them and wont bend over for them. So just like in the Big 12 as they started to fall into obscurity and not mattering anymore, which will be fairly fast in the SEC, they will throw a tantrum and do the same thing, threaten to go somewhere else or go independent.

 

[Bestaluckcy]

No way. Skunk River baby is where it’s at!! #skunkrivernavy4life

So black uniforms with a white stripe?

 

[BCClone]

We would need to have had more sports to be considered for the Big Ten IMO. Having just 6 men's sports seems so minor league.

Well, hockey men’s and women’s here we come!

 

[besserheimerphat]

Yeah but we have really the only 3 that matter to the big 10. Football, basketball, Wrasslin

According to the B1G 2019 handbook, all member schools must offer at least 7 men's and 8 women's sports. And only 2 of each of those can be "individual" sports though I'm not sure how thats defined. Number of sports matters. As I recall, we are currently at the minimum number of men's sports to be in the Big 12.

 

[Cloneon]

If they create a 30 team super conference not all of the blue bloods can be dominant. Wait until Texas or Michigan or Georgia is going 6-6 regularly.

Plus people tend to forget the viewership by out-of-conference scheduling G5s. Once, they are there own entity, the expansive programming comes to a halt. 30 teams is not enough. Maybe 64, but that still leaves a lot of viewership hanging. This, imo, will backfire for both the SEC and ESPN UNLESS they get the 64 biggest AND schedule G5s periodically.

 

[besserheimerphat]

You think in all of this it really matters that we aren't currently offering men's gymnastics? Ha. Let the conferences sort out membership for football and TV money and they will do whatever needs to occur with the irrelevant sports. Number of Olympic sports that play in empty venues and lose money has absolutely zero influence on how this all plays out.

You think any conference (especially the B1G) is going to just decide that their membership rules don't matter? Sure the football money is the driving factor, but schools (especially the ivory tower, holier than thou B1G) aren't going to just kick all that stuff to the curb. There are non-athletic members of the B1G because the research collaboration money between members dwarfs anything made by football. That doesn't go away because these guys want to play Bama.

 

[2speedy1]

Take a red canoe up to Ada Hayden......boom, we've got women's rowing and 20 schollies to offset the added men's sports.

It has already been said we are actually behind in mens scholarships, we have plenty of room in our Title IX limit, since many of the mens sports were dropped a couple decades ago, due to a dramatic increase and shift in enrollment changing the metrics.

It has been said we could easily add a mens team sport like Hockey or Baseball and still be ok with Title IX.
But Im all for adding sports, in all aspects as long as we can make it work. I can tell you I would be in the stands at both some Hockey and Baseball games. Should actually try to catch a club game sometime.

Rowing would be fun too, I just wonder if that option has been set back at Iowa State due to the tragedy. Although a University sanctioned team would be much better equipped making it much safer.

 

[cyclonehomer]

You think in all of this it really matters that we aren't currently offering men's gymnastics? Ha. Let the conferences sort out membership for football and TV money and they will do whatever needs to occur with the irrelevant sports. Number of Olympic sports that play in empty venues and lose money has absolutely zero influence on how this all plays out.

This whole thing is more likely to kill tons of non-revenue sports in the long run than make schools add more.

 

[Bestaluckcy]

If we could ever get the entertainment district going....

 

[JP4CY]

Michigan isn’t leaving.

The only way Michigan leaves

SEC from trying to poach Michigan

Updated.

 

[Freebird]

Yeah, if we had hockey right now, in the NCHA, Iowa State's name would light up like neon to the Big Ten honchos.
You'd have Minnesota, Wisky, Mich State on the phones lobbying for us.

With B10 money I think we can make hockey happen within a few years. Already have two good club teams. But the city of Ames/ university need to invest in one more sheet of ice. Which the current ice arena can accommodate. It was designed to expand.

 

[Tornado man]

With B10 money I think we can make hockey happen within a few years. Already have two good club teams. But the city of Ames/ university need to invest in one more sheet of ice. Which the current ice arena can accommodate. It was designed to expand.

Wouldn't we need a new arena? That doesn't seem anywhere close to an NCAA level building.
What's sobering though is that even Penn State, with all their money, needed a sugar daddy in Pegula to build an arena (yes a lot more opulent than what we would need) and for the start-up costs.

 

[Freebird]

Wouldn't we need a new arena? That doesn't seem anywhere close to an NCAA level building.
What's sobering though is that even Penn State, with all their money, needed a sugar daddy in Pegula to build an arena (yes a lot more opulent than what we would need) and for the start-up costs.

Hilton. That’s were Murdock’s teams started playing before the arena. It’s possible. Especially now that basketball has a practice facility as that was where most of the conflicts were.