Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

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This would be well and good as long as you believe that espn isnt driving for a super league. Youd be 4th best but still at the big table.
But if they are doing a super league, then eventually usc and oregon leave and you still end up in the 2nd tier. Which if theres a super league, thats where we end up anyway, so ok.

ESPN needs a super league so bad because they're horrible at covering about everything else it seems.
 

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Michigan isn’t leaving. A school that considers itself the best public school in the country isn’t going to join a conference with Mississippi State, Arkansas and the like. The cultural fit is horrendous and it is comical that anyone would even think that is a possibility.

I agree with you, but when it comes to realignment:

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Not exactly sure.
Has the BIG ever added teams for Power? Rutgers, Maryland? No they haven’t.. and BIG prob won’t add teams for Power this time either.. Even adding USC/UCLA doesn’t add much honestly...USC and UCLA had less viewership per game than ISU did last year.
And they had 0 fans so that should have boosted it.
 

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Michigan isn’t leaving. A school that considers itself the best public school in the country isn’t going to join a conference with Mississippi State, Arkansas and the like. The cultural fit is horrendous and it is comical that anyone would even think that is a possibility.

You really think cultural fit will override money?

Either way I'm not saying any of those schools are leaving.

But going all Hok fan by pointing to some list as 'See? It will be fine because 1980s'' does nothing to negate the fact that the league is carried by those schools.
 
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I agree with you, but when it comes to realignment:

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The only way Michigan leaves is (i) if the schools form a super conference with the top x number of programs, regardless of geography or current conference affiliation, or (ii) Ohio State joins the SEC, which prompts Penn State to leave for the ACC (which likely only happens if the ACC strengthens by adding Notre Dame), and then Michigan joins Penn State in the ACC.

Both of those scenarios appear rather unlikely at this time.
 

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Michigan isn’t leaving. A school that considers itself the best public university in the country isn’t going to join a conference with Mississippi State, Arkansas and the like. The cultural fit is horrendous and it is comical that anyone would even think that is a possibility.

Normally, I agree with you, but let us not forget the power of the almighty dollar. If it looks like the SEC is poised to raise a lot more revenue, while taking money away from the B1G’s pot, I wouldn’t put anything past any school. And really, all it takes is for tOSU to bluff and say they are going and Michigan would be right there with them.

The idea of falling behind in the arms race for blue blood programs is the most frightening thing they can imagine. In the end, greed will win out.
 
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Does anyone thing that the NFL is worried about a college super league? It will turn into a glorified D-league.
 

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Normally, I agree with you, but let us not forget the power of the almighty dollar. If it looks like the SEC is poised to raise a lot more revenue, while taking money away from the B1G’s pot, I wouldn’t put anything past any school. And really, all it takes is for tOSU to bluff and say they are going and Michigan would be right there with them.

The idea of falling behind in the arms race for blue blood programs is the most frightening thing they can imagine. In the end, greed will win out.
Big ten hinges on OSU. Michigan is a has been in the athletic world. OSU is king of the big ten.
 

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he chose a Iowa state in a major conference within his recruiting area. He didn’t choose Iowa state in a lessor conference outside of his recruiting base.

I want to comment on this. Campbell's recruiting pitch is to be the Big 12 option for kids in Big 10 recruiting areas. Why not be the Pac 16 option for midwestern kids. Same thing. This wouldn't mean we HAVE to exclusively recruit California or anything close to that.
 

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All the NFL would have to do is start putting a couple games on Saturdays each week and it decimate an NFL lite college league.

And Saturday NFL games aren't unheard of, and they already do the weekly Thursday games. Seems like it would be easy for them to maneuver this.
 
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Big ten hinges on OSU. Michigan is a has been in the athletic world. OSU is king of the big ten.
So basically OU and Texas in the Big XII. Michigan is the other value team in the conference. PSU is a half a step below. Wisky below that. Then middle teams like Purdue, MSU, Ill, Iowa etc. Bottom are NW and Rutgers
 

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Not exactly sure.
So basically OU and Texas in the Big XII. Michigan is the other value team in the conference. PSU is a half a step below. Wisky below that. Then middle teams like Purdue, MSU, Ill, Iowa etc. Bottom are NW and Rutgers
Agree mostly. OSU would be okie. Michigan would be Texas without as much pull. A team living in the past, but Texas is still the #1 AD out there money wise. Michigan is slipping some. The test is pretty spot on. KU is like Wisky, they have a BB machine that rivals many football teams.
 

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My biggest concern is what would be the reaction or benefit of adding Kansas and Iowa State to the Big Ten? The SEC adds two bluebloods to their already insanely strong conference and the Big Ten's response would be to add Kansas and Iowa State? I don't actually think the Big Ten needs to expand right away and would have time to evaluate their options. They know we're not going anywhere. With how much the Big Ten is making, would we be just another mouth to feed? Could the Big Ten be eyeing an ACC team like Virginia and North Carolina and be willing to wait until their GOR expires? I know college football today isn't what it used to be, but remember, they stayed at 11 teams for 21 years and missed out on all the revenue they could've made that entire time with a conference championship game until they felt they had a 12th team they thought would be a good addition. Could the Big Ten want to actively expand but only with national brands in new markets? Maybe make themselves a more national brand of a conference? As crazy as it sounds, any chance they think a couple west coast schools would be interested in forming their own superconference, such as Oregon, USC, Washington and Colorado? All would be new markets, all are AAU with excellent academics, all could likely intrigue the big ten athletically, academically and financially. Those schools could also be interested too with how dysfunctional their conference has been and how low their revenue distributions have been, making less than the Big 12 and ACC.

Don't get me wrong, Iowa State would compete fine in the Big Ten and geographically makes perfect sense, but that doesn't always matter. I think for us to get into the Big Ten, afew things might need to happen:
1) Big Ten decide they want to expand and not willing to wait until 2036 for a potential ACC addition.
2) The Big Ten doesn't pursue west coast teams and the top west coast teams don't approach the Big Ten. With how much of a pay increase it'd be and a competitive conference, financially I think schools might be interested but with how many Olympic sports the Pac-12 has, that could be brutal if California and Oregon schools were flying to Pennsylvania, Maryland and New Jersey for week day swimming, track, volleyball, etc. matches.

Guess we'll just have to wait and hope for the best and pray Pollard is able to navigate us through this.
Why can’t all of this be true. It seems apparent the SEC isn’t stopping at 16. Why not gobble up the 2 big 12 teams that fit the mold, go after all the PAC teams you can, and then raid the ACC ASAP.
 

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