Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

PizzaTheHutt

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At OUR table. JFC you delusional loser. You could swap out ISU for Iowa and it would make zero difference in the Big 10. Nobody would care or notice, other than maybe the conference would have a lot fewer white guys.

It's Ohio State and Michigan's conference. Just like the Big 12 was UT and OUs conference. You're just along for the ride just like ISU was along for the ride with UT and OU. You don't matter, and ISU doesn't matter. Both programs are complete irrelevant afterthoughts in the grand scheme and national conversation of college sports. The difference is a good chunk of our fanbase realizes it while you dim bulbs think Iowa matters.

And let's not confuse wanting in the Big 10 as somehow a change of course. Wanting to get more money to play in what has been one of the 2 weakest power conference division per Sagarin consistently for a decade is pretty rational.

The big 10 west is ******* garbage. Everyone knows it. And I want in.
This post made my belly jiggle with joy and happiness
 

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For a span of 18 months, Bowlsby worked with Sankey on figuring out how many conference champs and teams to make the playoffs. 6 conference champs was decided. Sankey was probably trying hard not to tell Bob that 5 will be the end result after the behind Bob's back scheming with Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC and the eventual status downfall of the Big 12. Sankey has got a little snake in him, reminds me of a Larry Scott.
 

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Talk about delusional….

Iowa is top 15-ish in terms of athletic revenue, and historically a top 25-30 program in both football and basketball. You can pretend that Iowa and Iowa State are equals all you want, but it isn’t even close to being true.

You have zero clue what a top 25 basketball program looks like.

In football I'd easily throw Iowa in there. It's been multiple decades since the basketball program was in that range.
 

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Nothing is official. But Big 12 ads and presidents had a meeting yesterday. OU and Texas choose not to attend. Rumor that they will submit a letter to the Big 12 very soon ( some day hours, others saying early in the week) stating their intention to leave. Remaining big 12 sent a media letter out saying they want to stay together and would like to know OU and Texas grievances. But it sounds like we’re getting the cold shoulder from them.

Teams starting to make calls to find landing spots when big 12 ceases to exist. Supposedly KU and ISU have or has had a call with Big 10.
Addendum: State of Texas in emergency legislation to establish laws securing the state's authority in approving such moves. But, not likely to be done in the short time needed to prevent the Texas move. A few posts revealing the value of the academics when compared to the athletics. A few comments on Iowa's political lack of contribution to AAU status. A few comments on ESPN's position in all this. And, as far as I can tell, the other 99.9% is speculation.
 

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Politicians, Board of Regents, People with actual intelligence on the matter and how it is a benefit in many ways and a huge negative for ISU to fall to a lower conference, all would be pressuring the UofI to admit us. This is good for them too, and the state in general, we share a lot of common interests, and Governance.
Tavern Hawks can say what they want most have no idea what they are talking about.
Yes. Iowans should be proud of the investments made in all of our Regents schools. I agree that legislators, school administrators and most importantly voters will not allow any one of these schools to be relegated to a lower status in anything.
 

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Politicians, Board of Regents, People with actual intelligence on the matter and how it is a benefit in many ways and a huge negative for ISU to fall to a lower conference, all would be pressuring the UofI to admit us. This is good for them too, and the state in general, we share a lot of common interests, and Governance.
Tavern Hawks can say what they want most have no idea what they are talking about.


exactly. iowa state not getting into a power conference would be an economic disaster for central iowa. iowa state employs a lot of people. football gamedays bring in a lot of money to businesses within 150 miles of Ames. the central iowa media market and advertising would lose 55% at least of their business.
 

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Yes. Iowans should be proud of the investments made in all of our Regents schools. I agree that legislators, school administrators and most importantly voters will not allow any one of these schools to be relegated to a lower status in anything.
This was true long ago. Look at trends in funding and try saying that again with a straight face.
 
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Talk about delusional….

Iowa is top 15-ish in terms of athletic revenue, and historically a top 25-30 program in both football and basketball. You can pretend that Iowa and Iowa State are equals all you want, but it isn’t even close to being true.

LMAO at calling Iowa a top 25 basketball program. Just because you had a decent year in hoops last season does not make you a top 25 program. That is equal to Cyclone fans on here saying we are a top 10 football program because we've had a top ten team last year and heading into the next.
 

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Talk about delusional….

Iowa is top 15-ish in terms of athletic revenue, and historically a top 25-30 program in both football and basketball. You can pretend that Iowa and Iowa State are equals all you want, but it isn’t even close to being true.

Somehow you managed to avoid addressing what he said entirely. The point wasn’t that ISU and Iowa have been equal programs historically the point was Iowa and ISU offer the same amount to a conference. Saying “Iowa is a value to a conference because they are too 15 in revenue” just proves how clearly you don’t understand what is happening. Iowa is top 15 in revenue because it is in the Big 10 and the Big 10 has that value because of other brands that are part of it besides Iowa. I know this makes you frustrated, trust me we all understand, but burying your head in the sand and citing Rose Bowls from the 80s will only make reality hurt worse.
 

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Somehow you managed to avoid addressing what he said entirely. The point wasn’t that ISU and Iowa have been equal programs historically the point was Iowa and ISU offer the same amount to a conference. Saying “Iowa is a value to a conference because they are too 15 in revenue” just proves how clearly you don’t understand what is happening. Iowa is top 15 in revenue because it is in the Big 10 and the Big 10 has that value because of other brands that are part of it besides Iowa. I know this makes you frustrated, trust me we all understand, but burying your head in the sand and citing Rose Bowls from the 80s will only make reality hurt worse.
Well said
 

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I’m sure this same post is buried in here somewhere, but I perused TexAgs last night. If you want a silver lining in all of this go there. The amount of butthurt there is absolutely unreal. Because I can’t stand their cultish weirdo fanbase, it was extremely satisfying.
 

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My biggest concern is what would be the reaction or benefit of adding Kansas and Iowa State to the Big Ten? The SEC adds two bluebloods to their already insanely strong conference and the Big Ten's response would be to add Kansas and Iowa State? I don't actually think the Big Ten needs to expand right away and would have time to evaluate their options. They know we're not going anywhere. With how much the Big Ten is making, would we be just another mouth to feed? Could the Big Ten be eyeing an ACC team like Virginia and North Carolina and be willing to wait until their GOR expires? I know college football today isn't what it used to be, but remember, they stayed at 11 teams for 21 years and missed out on all the revenue they could've made that entire time with a conference championship game until they felt they had a 12th team they thought would be a good addition. Could the Big Ten want to actively expand but only with national brands in new markets? Maybe make themselves a more national brand of a conference? As crazy as it sounds, any chance they think a couple west coast schools would be interested in forming their own superconference, such as Oregon, USC, Washington and Colorado? All would be new markets, all are AAU with excellent academics, all could likely intrigue the big ten athletically, academically and financially. Those schools could also be interested too with how dysfunctional their conference has been and how low their revenue distributions have been, making less than the Big 12 and ACC.

Don't get me wrong, Iowa State would compete fine in the Big Ten and geographically makes perfect sense, but that doesn't always matter. I think for us to get into the Big Ten, afew things might need to happen:
1) Big Ten decide they want to expand and not willing to wait until 2036 for a potential ACC addition.
2) The Big Ten doesn't pursue west coast teams and the top west coast teams don't approach the Big Ten. With how much of a pay increase it'd be and a competitive conference, financially I think schools might be interested but with how many Olympic sports the Pac-12 has, that could be brutal if California and Oregon schools were flying to Pennsylvania, Maryland and New Jersey for week day swimming, track, volleyball, etc. matches.

Guess we'll just have to wait and hope for the best and pray Pollard is able to navigate us through this.
 
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Not exactly sure.
For a span of 18 months, Bowlsby worked with Sankey on figuring out how many conference champs and teams to make the playoffs. 6 conference champs was decided. Sankey was probably trying hard not to tell Bob that 5 will be the end result after the behind Bob's back scheming with Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC and the eventual status downfall of the Big 12. Sankey has got a little snake in him, reminds me of a Larry Scott.
I’ve said since the start that bob is a donut dunker. Not a lot of substance
 

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