Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

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ISU has a smaller fanbase than Mizzou by a long shot. Hence, Mizzou will have more people buying game streams. The principle is still the same. There are more eyes on Mizzou football than Iowa State. If they still have more eyes, who gives a **** if it's cable or internet? There are also way more fortune 500 companies in Missouri than Iowa. All those things are a factor. You are nuts if you think they aren't. Way more wealthy alumni than ISU. The Big 10 was the last one to expand and they added Maryland and Rutgers and now you have OU and Texas going to the SEC yet it's not about adding revenue and viewers anymore?

But we care a lot and a lot of people go to KC to drink beer in March.
 

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Larger state. JFC I'm telling you right now Mizzou has twice as many fans as ISU. At least. It's not even close. There are more Missouri fans in the northern 1/3 of Missouri than there are ISU fans total. Maybe not as loyal but way more numerous.
We can go back and forth all day. You'll continue to support the antiquated advertising model you're touting. I'll continue to point to a more dedicated fan-base with more targeted marketing models. So, let's just agree to disagree.
 

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Have you been on this board when an 11am kick is announced?

They act like they're being shafted with them when they've had less than most others over the last 10 years.

We are near the top for number of 11am home games so it's at least a more legit gripe.
 

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In this scenario, who else does the B1G bring in?

why do they have to bring in anyone if the best they can get is ISU? That's not intended to be a shot at ISU. I could certainly see them adding ISU if they're adding a huge chunk of the ACC and wanted to add ISU to shore up the midwest.

But if ISU is the big name being added...why do it?

It's basically the same predicament the Big 12 has been in since they went to 10 teams. Sure they can add Cincinnati or BYU, but why?

I said yesterday that I thought ISU would be fine no matter what. I'm rethinking that, and I'm starting to think that Iowa should be worried as well. Conferences don't mean **** if the top 20 schools leave and do their own thing.
 

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We can go back and forth all day. You'll continue to support the antiquated advertising model you're touting. I'll continue to point to a more dedicated fan-base with more targeted marketing models. So, let's just agree to disagree.
WTF are you talking about? Anytime you wanna show me proof that any conference is looking for anything other than larger revenue bases to tap into please show me the evidence? If they just wanted loyal fans who traveled Boise State would be in the Pac 12.
 

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The only way this ends up good for ISU is if Ok and TX are using this to negotiate their way to keeping more revenue for themselves in the Big 12. And that’s a crappy situation for the rest of us to be in because this whole deal just shows the fragility of the conference if those two decide to flex.
 

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why do they have to bring in anyone if the best they can get is ISU? That's not intended to be a shot at ISU. I could certainly see them adding ISU if they're adding a huge chunk of the ACC and wanted to add ISU to shore up the midwest.

But if ISU is the big name being added...why do it?

It's basically the same predicament the Big 12 has been in since they went to 10 teams. Sure they can add Cincinnati or BYU, but why?

I said yesterday that I thought ISU would be fine no matter what. I'm rethinking that, and I'm starting to think that Iowa should be worried as well. Conferences don't mean **** if the top 20 schools leave and do their own thing.

Because the SEC will be holding the cards. The smartest thing the PAC, B1G and ACC can do is try to level things out and breakaway into a four conference league.
 
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The only way this ends up good for ISU is if Ok and TX are using this to negotiate their way to keeping more revenue for themselves in the Big 12. And that’s a crappy situation for the rest of us to be in because this whole deal just shows the fragility of the conference if those two decide to flex.

The damage is done at this point. All trust has been burnt and even if this is all posturing (it's not) I don't know how the league could move forward.
 
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The damage is done at this point. All trust has been burnt and even if this is all posturing (it's not) I don't know how the league could move forward.

I don't either. But it would be good for us if it did.

If we were in a bad athletic/football position, then I think we would probably be fine with a ****** reconfigured Big 12. But now? We need the Big 12 to survive as long as possible so that we can get out as much as we can.
 

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Larger state. JFC I'm telling you right now Mizzou has twice as many fans as ISU. At least. It's not even close. There are more Missouri fans in the northern 1/3 of Missouri than there are ISU fans total. Maybe not as loyal but way more numerous. It's like saying the Chiefs have more fans than the NY Giants just because Arrowhead stadium is a better atmosphere.

I have lived in St. Louis for 17 years. I'm sorry man, but you are giving Mizzou way too much credit. Sounds to me like you are a Mizzou guy on an ISU message board trying to convince everyone how popular you are. Weird
 

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They act like they're being shafted with them when they've had less than most others over the last 10 years.

We are near the top for number of 11am home games so it's at least a more legit gripe.
There are plenty of 11:00 am games in the SEC as well so it's not like this is only something to deal with in the Big 12.
 

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I have lived in St. Louis for 17 years. I'm sorry man, but you are giving Mizzou way too much credit. Sounds to me like you are a Mizzou guy on an ISU message board trying to convince everyone how popular you are. Weird
Yeah I'm a huge Mizzou fan. You're on crack if you think ISU has more fans than Mizzou. ISU doesn't even have as many fans as Iowa. JFC perspective!
 

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Because the SEC will be holding the cards. The smartest thing the PAC, B1G and ACC can do is try to level things out and breakaway into a four conference league.

So the SEC adds OU and Texas, and you think the Big 10 adding ISU is leveling things out?

What is far more likely is the Big 10 and Pac 12 revive that partnership idea they had the last time the Big 12 was possibly imploding.

Frankly what I'm scared is going to happen is OSU, Michigan, and PSU leave the Big 10, Clemson, FSU, and Miami leave the ACC, USC, Oregon, and Washington leave the Pac 12 (or some other combination of departures for the new SEC league) and ISU and Iowa will be in the same conference in the new 1AA league.
 
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