Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

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It's hard to swallow but true, they are 6 hours further west than we are. If Okie St goes also they aren't that far away from Oklahoma, Colorado, and Utah.
Who cares how much closer they are, they're still a mountain range and 2 time zones away from the majority of the conference.
 

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You think Iowa St traditionally has more viewers than they do?
I couldn't care less about them anymore, im just stating the obvious that they make much more geographic sense.

Please respond as to why the PAC-12 would take a Non-AAU member in Kansas State.
 

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Not exactly sure.
You think Iowa St traditionally has more viewers than they do?
I couldn't care less about them anymore, im just stating the obvious that they make much more geographic sense.
We get a lot more fans. I know that. Viewers? Not sure.
 

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Who cares how much closer they are, they're still a mountain range and 2 time zones away from the majority of the conference.

But the flight is like 3 hours and 45 minutes versus 3 hours and 20 minutes
 

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You think Iowa St traditionally has more viewers than they do?
I couldn't care less about them anymore, im just stating the obvious that they make much more geographic sense.
Not sure if you noticed but Geography doesn't matter anymore. A small school in Omaha is in the Big East.
 

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You think Iowa St traditionally has more viewers than they do?
I couldn't care less about them anymore, im just stating the obvious that they make much more geographic sense.

K-State had more viewers because they had more success under a certain coach. That coach is gone and now K-State can resume its rightful place in the cellar.
 

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ISU is superior to KSU in every aspect of realignment to every conference, period. 6 hour drive time means nothing in a plane.
 

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You think Iowa St traditionally has more viewers than they do?
I couldn't care less about them anymore, im just stating the obvious that they make much more geographic sense.
LOL
 

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At some point there’s going to be passengers to make up the numbers. If a league like the Big 12 collapsed that’s a content hole that needs to be filled and that live TV money is going somewhere. CFB is officially an arms race now. If you’re standing still you’re losing.
But the content that is worth paying top dollar for (OU/TX) is elsewhere. There won't be a content hole because presumably the 8 remaining schools would continue to have athletics but there will be a "how much is this worth paying for?" issue. Fox/ESPN/etc. would be paying the vast majority of the money to the SEC that the Big 12 used to command. A pittance would be left behind for the leftovers likely similar to what the AAC or MW gets now.

It would unquestionably be the end of ISU athletics as a major player.
 

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Honestly it would be really bad for the Iowa taxpayer - we’d likely never be able to meet the debt obligations. Can’t exactly repo the student performance center.

The exit fees they would have to pay to the conference would be $70-80M....and more since it appears that neither school provided the required 12 hours notice before starting negotiations with the SEC. (per Big12 charter) It would at least put a dent in the total or service the debt for a while...


From Surlyhorns.com:

<<so basically Texas and OU have 12 hours to inform the conference that they are talking to anyone about leaving and failure to do so gets them removed from voting on any conference business.....they also have to reject those offers in a manner acceptable to the conference or they cannot vote on conference business

and the exit fee is 2 years prior revenues and there are additional penalties for trying to get out of paying that or doing things that cause further damage

if Texas and OU are in fact talking to others and they have not given the required notice there are a lot of actions the Big 12 an take and I do not think that would look good in any forthcoming lawsuit

Texas and OU are probably going to have to pay a lot of money to leave especially if they have not done things properly I don't think this will be a case of getting the exit fee cut in half or getting it down to 75% like Maryland did.....all the more so if there was no 12 hour notice

this could be anywhere from $60 million to $90+ million for Texas and OU to leave depending on the amounts paid by the conference the prior two years and how much anyone and everyone wants to fight in court.......which I think the other 8 members of the Big 12 will be up for a pretty big fight

the Big 12 can also refuse to televise games of the members leaving if they are in violation of the contract>>
 

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Minnesota
Non P5 schedule
Fresno State
Georgia Southern

Big wins:
Penn State
Wisconsin
Auburn

Iowa
Non P5 schedule
Middle Tennessee
Miami (OH)

Big wins:
Minnesota
Iowa State
USC

ISU
Non P5 schedule
UNI (FCS)
LA-Monroe

Big wins:
Baylor
Texas
You're trying really hard, troll.
 
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I think even times have changed since 2014 though...streaming services have become super popular over the last few years and especially during the covid year we had...now I agree KU and ISU don't bring a lot to the table in any sense of tv markets but I don't think that's the end all be all of not considering us. We both are AAU members
Even if a decision wasn't based exclusively on TV viewers for sporting events I think the Big 10 has always had somewhat of an interest in empire building their brand.
 
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I'm going from memory here, but I recall reading after the last round of realignment that ESPN felt it had overstepped a bit in driving all that activity and somewhat regretted its role in nearly nuking the Big 12 and that they felt there was value in the conference. That was comforting for awhile.

I hope sanity takes hold somewhere, because this train derailed insanely fast.