Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

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It makes a lot of sense given some past reporting of how quick it seems to move from someone showing up to the hospital to them being on a ventilator- due to this not showing other symptoms, some patients are quite far along before they get to that point.

Also seems problematic with how many people with symptoms have been told just to self-quarantine, given they may not have the ability at home to monitor their oxygen levels and could be getting quite a bit worse- and thus end up waiting until too late to go to the hospital
Yeah and the home oximeters don’t have a good rep for accuracy.
 

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"Santa Clara County Public Health in California announced Tuesday that autopsy results found a patient who died on Feb. 6 had the novel coronavirus.

Why it matters: The first known death from COVID-19 in the U.S. was declared on Feb. 29 to be a patient in Washington state. A second person who died in Santa Clara on Feb. 17 was also found to have the virus.

  • Santa Clara County executive Jeff Smith said the origins of the cases, and another on March 6, were "believed to be within the community," suggesting transmission in the area occurred much earlier than previously thought, according to the Mercury News."
 

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I’m anxious to see if this is corroborated, stealth pneumonia is a freaky sounding thing.

I've had that or something similar at some point in my life.

Was home from school for several days and only because I was somehow diagnosed, would have never been able to tell.
 

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The list of celebrities for this viral thing is hilarious - Carson King, Ashton Kutcher, Chuck Grassley, Joni Ernst, the Lt Gov and Keith Murphy - lol. We as a state really struggle with "celebrities".
Why didn’t Eric Church get a tag?
 

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It makes a lot of sense given some past reporting of how quick it seems to move from someone showing up to the hospital to them being on a ventilator- due to this not showing other symptoms, some patients are quite far along before they get to that point.

Also seems problematic with how many people with symptoms have been told just to self-quarantine, given they may not have the ability at home to monitor their oxygen levels and could be getting quite a bit worse- and thus end up waiting until too late to go to the hospital

Yeah and the home oximeters don’t have a good rep for accuracy.

If you have a Samsung phone that has Samsung health on it it reads really close on O2 saturation. My wife has respiratory problems and we go to the hospital multiple times per year and have an oxygen concentrator at home. Every time we have went to the doctor or hospital for her the Samsung has been dead on.
 

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This is positive in that most countries I've looked at are having a decrease in daily cases if it started getting confirmed cases around Marchish.

However, if it were recommended by our federal government to just have people work at home if they wanted, and allow high risk people to SIP and get paid leave, do you think our workforce would have collectively allowed it?

Would our culture that is obsessed with their rights being taken away, that doesn't really value healthy lifestyles or how their actions affect others, buy in to being careful enough not to spread it to high risk individuals?

If a school district has it run rampant through a teaching staff and most of the staff is out with it or had stronger symptoms (rule is if you have a fever, stay home), and there's a sub shortage, what do you do for the 3-4 weeks that the staff is out?

I just don't see how you do this with 350 million people, with our culture, unless there were a very good, concrete plan from the beginning to counter any potential messes and hold people at least somewhat accountable.
 
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Can anyone here read German?
I can - the article's premise is that the slowdown in the reproduction rate of the virus (the "R0") seemed to be primarily be due to the limitation of large events and the hygiene recommendations rather than the full lockdown. It notes that the sharp drop in R0 was almost exactly the predicted 10 days after the ban on large gatherings, and before the full lockdown. Similar results were found in Germany. It does note caution in interpreting these results though, due to a number of variables.

There were two main points at the end - that we might not actually be "flying blind" with regards to data, and that more "simple" measures like not allowing large public gatherings and being very vigilant about washing hands, etc. might be enough to effectively flatten the curve and not overload hospitals, provided the public buys in. That said, more research is needed
 

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This is positive in that most countries I've looked at are having a decrease in daily cases if it started getting confirmed cases around Marchish.

However, if it were recommended by our federal government to just have people work at home if they wanted, and allow high risk people to SIP and get paid leave, do you think our workforce would have collectively allowed it?

Would our culture that is obsessed with their rights being taken away, that doesn't really value healthy lifestyles or how their actions affect others, buy in to being careful enough not to spread it to high risk individuals?

If a school district has it run rampant through a teaching staff and most of the staff is out with it or had stronger symptoms (rule is if you have a fever, stay home), and there's a sub shortage, what do you do for the 3-4 weeks that the staff is out?

I just don't see how you do this with 350 million people, with our culture, unless there were a very good, concrete plan from the beginning to counter any potential messes and hold people at least somewhat accountable.

Watch out, you almost arrived at the libertarian viewpoint for central planning lol
 
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I can - the article's premise is that the slowdown in the reproduction rate of the virus (the "R0") seemed to be primarily be due to the limitation of large events and the hygiene recommendations rather than the full lockdown. It notes that the sharp drop in R0 was almost exactly the predicted 10 days after the ban on large gatherings, and before the full lockdown. Similar results were found in Germany. It does note caution in interpreting these results though, due to a number of variables.

There were two main points at the end - that we might not actually be "flying blind" with regards to data, and that more "simple" measures like not allowing large public gatherings and being very vigilant about washing hands, etc. might be enough to effectively flatten the curve and not overload hospitals, provided the public buys in. That said, more research is needed
Thank you!

That seems to suggest very good news in that the spread can be somewhat contained just by wearing masks, washing hands and avoiding large gatherings. Very possible to do in most places. New York City might still have issues unless they are able to shut the sub way system down for a while.
 
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