Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

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Urbandale2013

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Here is something I hadn’t thought about before. What impact possibly did bowl season have on this. There have been debates over when this actually made it to the US. If there were cases around the holiday season one of the places you’d expect it to have been at was Disney. I know for example I got sick when we were down there. I would be shocked if what I had was this but is it possible that we have a potential for having had it float around for longer than other places.


Doubt it’s a statistically significant factor but would be interesting to see.
 
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Here's some more info about it.



I still have questions about why we are using a start-up company from Utah, what provisions are in place for privacy and what the cost is to Iowa taxpayers to use out-of-state private facilities for testing.


Did the State discuss the symptoms that would be present and that should lead a person to seeking a test?
 

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Here is something I hadn’t thought about before. What impact possibly did bowl season have on this. There have been debates over when this actually made it to the US. If there were cases around the holiday season one of the places you’d expect it to have been at was Disney. I know for example I got sick when we were down there. I would be shocked if what I had was this but is it possible that we have a potential for having had it float around for longer than other places.


Doubt it’s a statistically significant factor but would be interesting to see.

Unlikely that it was in the country that early given how many negative tests that there have been in the country, even accounting for false negatives, and considering how efficiently and quickly it spreads...
 

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Unlikely that it was in the country that early given how many negative tests that there have been in the country, even accounting for false negatives, and considering how efficiently and quickly it spreads...
That would have to be serology tests not active tests. If it would have been here back then people wouldn’t have it anymore.
 

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The list of celebrities for this viral thing is hilarious - Carson King, Ashton Kutcher, Chuck Grassley, Joni Ernst, the Lt Gov and Keith Murphy - lol. We as a state really struggle with "celebrities".

At least they skipped Tom Arnold.

Is Jason Momao busy?
 

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Did you have to change your underwear after you saw this today?


Positive cases are going to sky rocket now. More tests. More cases. Hope everybody doesn't **** their pants over this. I'm guessing one out of three people on this board is either infected right now, or has already had it.
 

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That would have to be serology tests not active tests. If it would have been here back then people wouldn’t have it anymore.

1) Serology testing is seeking the presence of antibodies, and 2) the testing for the virus consists of collecting the virus' genetic material rather than acting as an assay for active virus.

So once again anyone claiming that the virus has been here that long would have to account for the negative tests.
 

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Positive cases are going to sky rocket now. More tests. More cases. Hope everybody doesn't **** their pants over this. I'm guessing one out of three people on this board is either infected right now, or has already had it.

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On a serious note, I haven't seen much on this--is it communicated that the positive results are coming from more testing?

I.e., does some official announce, 'Because we're doing more testing, that's increasing our ability to find positive outcomes, and lets us better understand where things are'.

That kind of a statement right there would be concise and informative as to why numbers jump up.
 

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Positive cases are going to sky rocket now. More tests. More cases. Hope everybody doesn't **** their pants over this. I'm guessing one out of three people on this board is either infected right now, or has already had it.

No need to loss your **** over the higher numbers, but also no need to substantially reopen the state.
 

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Minnesota seemed to be the last state to really have it start up. They're still close to the best per capita numbers but I wonder if it'll just be really late and they'll be similar to any other state that has at least one big metro.

Some breakouts in care facilities and packing plants both up north here. Issues with a few care facilities is so many staffers got ill that they could not care for those living there. Moved peeps out of several facilities but it's not like there are rooms/beds available all over the place. More an issue of sick staff than sick tenants. Even in best of times it's not a huge vacancy industry. I remember trying to find a spot for my mother back in Iowa when she had a stroke. Waiting list at only home in her smaller Iowa town. Thinking how would you care for peeps today if most of staff got sick at the home she ended up at at.
 

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The list of celebrities for this viral thing is hilarious - Carson King, Ashton Kutcher, Chuck Grassley, Joni Ernst, the Lt Gov and Keith Murphy - lol. We as a state really struggle with "celebrities".

No vodka sam?
 

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1) Serology testing is seeking the presence of antibodies, and 2) the testing for the virus consists of collecting the virus' genetic material rather than acting as an assay for active virus.

So once again anyone claiming that the virus has been here that long would have to account for the negative tests.
I’m not an expert so I won’t say your wrong but that’s not what has been reported or at least my understanding.
 

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Here's some more info about it.



I still have questions about why we are using a start-up company from Utah, what provisions are in place for privacy and what the cost is to Iowa taxpayers to use out-of-state private facilities for testing.

I can't speak to the questions of cost or why they chose the company, but they cover privacy and security questions in the links of the test Iowa program. Bottom line, you are submitting.jnformatiin to the state, so I don't know why this would make you any more nervous than filing your taxes,
Here's the FAQ.
https://www.testiowa.com/faq
I think they want everyone to take the assessment and then they'll recommend a test depending on how you answer.
I took it out of curiosity. You have to give your name, address, and contact info. Basically it is trying to determine if you have any symptoms, if you have been in contact with anyone with a confirmed case, if you are at high risk of contracting the disease, and if you have any underlying health issues that may make you high risk if you contract the disease. They do ask questions about your health and habits that may lead to complicating health factors (drinking, smoking, etc). If you are uncomfortable giving the state your contact info or personal health info don't take the survey. You can cancel it at any time during the survey.

Not surprisingly it is not recommending I get tested at this time because I am pretty much low risk in every category. Eventually they will want to test people in my group if they want a statistically robust analysis of the virus in Iowa.
 
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I can't speak to the questions of cost or why they chose the company, but they cover privacy and security questions in the links of the test Iowa program. Bottom line, you are submitting.jnformatiin to the state, so I don't know why this would make you any more nervous than filing your taxes,

I took it out of curiosity. You have to give your name, address, and contact info. Basically it is trying to determine if you have any symptoms, if you have been in contact with anyone with a confirmed case, if you are at high risk of contracting the disease, and if you have any underlying health issues that may make you high risk if you contract the disease. They do ask questions about your health and habits that may lead to complicating health factors (drinking, smoking, etc). If you are uncomfortable giving the state your contact info or personal health info don't take the survey. You can cancel it at any time during the survey.

Not surprisingly it is not recommending I get tested at this time because I am pretty much low risk in every category. Eventually they will want to test people in my group if they want a statistically robust analysis of the virus in Iowa.

I took it also. You aren't giving up any information that is private other than issues related to prior existing health conditions. Those are always required in obtaining an accurate patient's history, and that is what the State is trying to do here.

I'll do what they need me to do if it means we can have a college football season in Iowa. I do not need tested according to their criteria.
 

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A later peak means an extended shutdown
It doesn't really matter. It's going to go through us one way or another. Just gotta keep the hospitals from becoming overwhelmed which they are a long ways off from that. Everyone isn't going to stay in shutdown for years.
 

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Positive cases are going to sky rocket now. More tests. More cases. Hope everybody doesn't **** their pants over this. I'm guessing one out of three people on this board is either infected right now, or has already had it.
Hopefully you are right.
 

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It doesn't really matter. It's going to go through us one way or another. Just gotta keep the hospitals from becoming overwhelmed which they are a long ways off from that. Everyone isn't going to stay in shutdown for years.

so we should open things up completely in a week?
 

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As would the mortality rate for COVID 19.
1) Serology testing is seeking the presence of antibodies, and 2) the testing for the virus consists of collecting the virus' genetic material rather than acting as an assay for active virus.

So once again anyone claiming that the virus has been here that long would have to account for the negative tests.

If PCR testing detects the presence of SARS-CoV 2 rna, the virus is definitely “active”. i.e. you’re infected and probably capable of transmission.
 
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