You'd hope there is a stronger plan being put together at the moment, and throughout the summer on how to be ready for a 2nd (or 3rd) wave and 6 months from now there's more efficiency and balance based on data available, and we're able to be proactive rather than reactive.
Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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You'd hope there is a stronger plan being put together at the moment, and throughout the summer on how to be ready for a 2nd (or 3rd) wave and 6 months from now there's more efficiency and balance based on data available, and we're able to be proactive rather than reactive.
I've never said people won't get the virus. I've simply said we should be doing everything possible to keep that number as small as possible.
Does this really mean anything, though? Doesn't seem like anything more than a good faith statement at this point. This doesn't mean Iowa wouldn't do the exact same thing on their own.
There's 280 pages of discussion on this here - and a couple thousand in the cave thread.
But since you asked:
To start with - the governor should take this more seriously and stop spreading disinformation. just today she said people should only stay away from work (meat packing plant, etc) if they feel sick. But that ignores that we know asymptomatic people spread the disease. They should quarantine for 7-10 days if they've been in contact with a sick person.
Yesterday's battle, so to speak, is PPE. Everyone working at an "essential" business needs a mask and gloves. If the company can't source them the state should help. If they still can't get them they need to shut it down.
Headlines matter - a stay at home order from the Governor would have a positive effect. As would an order requiring masks.
The next battle - which should already be happening - is to test everyone possible and contact trace positives. That's what we should be doing now - but can't. It's vitally essential that we have a robust testing and tracing procedure in place for 6 months from now.
So the lack of clear communication continues. The governor just says banned and so do the news papers but what does that really mean? According to KCRG it can result in a misdemeanor
I assume you don’t drive then. I hate the analogy because it isn’t a great one but I think some need to hear it.
Speed limits are set as they are where we as a society have determined acceptable deaths from traffic accidents. If there are no acceptable deaths then we shouldn’t have cars.
You can come up with other scenarios. If there are no acceptable deaths from say tornados then why do we not all live in concrete bunkers. Everyone whether consciously or subconsciously does some sort of cost benefit analysis in every action they take. This idea that we come out of this someday and don’t have to sacrifice anything is BS. I don’t know where that level of tolerance is but there is a level somewhere. People like to act like there is no level where the precautions are to much. Maybe you think the level of tolerance should be higher than others but then debate where the level should be don’t just act like there is no point where it’s to much.
I'm sorry but I just don't think that way so I can't really answer your questions. I do appreciate the discussion.
Not sure of this has been posted..
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...men-test-positive-for-coronavirus-82105413982
Not the same story I read last night, but essentially the same information. Testing on women about to give birth in NYC showed that 29 out of 215 tested positive for Covid19. Out of that 29 only 4 showed any symptoms. Crazy if in fact it is that many asymptomatic carriers. Could also be a very good thing if in fact we are able to build some sort immunity.
Another article : https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...e-but-few-symptoms-in-pregnant-women/2372863/
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...men-test-positive-for-coronavirus-82105413982
Not the same story I read last night, but essentially the same information. Testing on women about to give birth in NYC showed that 29 out of 215 tested positive for Covid19. Out of that 29 only 4 showed any symptoms. Crazy if in fact it is that many asymptomatic carriers. Could also be a very good thing if in fact we are able to build some sort immunity.
Another article : https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...e-but-few-symptoms-in-pregnant-women/2372863/
This sounds like Tyson and other packers may have been lying to the state. Iowa OSHA announced earlier today that they had no guidance from federal OSHA and had performed no in-person inspections
You must be new at corporate business. It's astounding how short sighted they can be.
Numbers good: make decisions from many layers up to keep it that way no matter what.
Numbers bad: add more positions and talking people, and more steps to the process of just getting the job done but cut positions that were actually vital.
That's my experience anyway.
You don't know that. Nor does anyone. If we were this meek and resigned in the face of polio that disease would have never been eradicated from this country.
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