Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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maybe those living in them should realize that they aren’t the only ones that matter. What if a nurses aide gets it and passes it on to their husband.
I don't see how you get "Not enough was done early on" from "The governor wants everyone to die." That's a large leap.
I think most people agree not enough was done early on. Very few people agree that the governor wants everyone to die, or feels that it's acceptable for large numbers of people to die. It's been over a month since the first reported cases only 60 people have died in the state so far, most of those are people who were in high risk categories who even in the most ideal environment would still be at greater risk than the general population. It's important to keep that in mind, imo, before making fear based statements like "the governor wants everyone to die."
People commonly die in car collisions though because they have the 'won't happen to me' mentality and continue with chosen high risk behaviors just like it has been with Covid-19.
Maybe if the message was stronger about the national economical impact of car collisions (hundreds of billions of dollars annually) that would change too since people don't acknowledge the injuries/deaths part very well.
Hospitals have been bailed out by insurance revenue for a long time. Time for them to run a leaner ship.
I have several family members (including my wife) that work in various levels of different hospitals - the leadership structure in these places is an absolute clown show. In most cases - there is 3, or more, highly paid individuals, doing the job of one person.
While I agree that it does set people off I’d say that more of a them problem than a problem with what @isutrevman said. Whether people admit it or not everyone does some of that type of analysis. If any death is unacceptable no scenario of life is acceptable. It may be a bit crass to say it but there is an acceptable amount of death in everything.
For anyone that is affected by that terminology read the below post.
I think that this is something that a lot of people need to hear. At some point society as a whole will get to this point where life in a preventative society is not worth the added safety. We aren’t there yet but in some places I think we are within a month of getting there.
If you were a state handling this competently, would you want to attach yourself to Iowa right now? Politically we're untouchable.
Ok. Then do you have a solution that keeps the virus from spreading until we have a vaccine, which could be never? A solution that doesn't lead to food shortages, power outages, permanent mass unemployment?
What do you think we should be doing 6 months from now?
Not sure who all the states are, know MN, MI and ohio. Can say MI and Ohio still have numbers very high, hopefully we would be along Mn area for opening and not Michigan and Ohio.
To go along with this, my father-in-law was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's 5 years ago, at the age of 57 (symptoms were starting to show up around 50). Over the last few years, he has lost all recognition of my wife and her sisters, his own children. My mother-in-law would visit him every other day, and she was the only person that he still could remember by name.
In the last month, without being able to leave his room, he has lost his ability to walk. He's 62!! My mother-in-law went to visit through the window a couple weeks ago and he doesn't recognize her. He doesn't understand why she won't come in to talk, and he got very upset with her.
She was bawling the other night on a video call with my wife, saying she would be willing to risk the virus in a heartbeat to be with him, but that's obviously not going to happen.
People also have to understand that even a vaccine will not completely help. By the time a vaccine is widely distributed, there will likely be other strains. Yes, the vaccine may help with other strains, but there is no way that we will be able to completely stop this virus.
Much as I feel less negative about Reynolds' handling of this situation than several others here, this really disappoints me. Very short sighted thinking from her.
A phrase like "acceptable deaths" makes it seem like more could have been done to prevent some deaths. If/When someone I know dies of this, I'd like to know everything possible was done to have prevented it. Our current situation is temporary. Everyone needs to realize it. Saying life is currently not worth living is shortsighted. Things will loosen up eventually and possibly return to some semblance of normal. People need to be more patient.
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