Is Lewis injured because

[CloniesForLife]

Which really serves as a classic example of why there is no magic bullet lineup this year. Conditt was much much better comng in as an energy but that means you have Ypung and MJ on the floor together which isn't ideal. We just simply don't have the horses or experience to build a starting 5 that can get us off to a good start. It is what it is at this point so really we just need the young guys to cut their teeth and get better.

Yep. I'm just happy Prohm finally took Nixon out of the starting lineup. I get that Prohm has taken a ton of heat this year and rightfully so but I was pleasantly surprised he did that

If I am Prohm I would start TH, Bolton, Jackson, Griffin, and Young. Bring Conditt off the bench. Those 6 guys (if you aren't going to play Lewis) get the lions share of minutes. MJ and NIxon get rotation minutes and see if they give you anything for that game.

 

[CyHans]

Conditt has been brutal since he entered the starting lineup

IMO, Conditt lacks the superior athletic ability that you see with some of the top big men. So... that means he needs to make up for that with hustle, ball handling and post moves.

 

[jsb]

Conditt has been brutal since he entered the starting lineup

He has. Probably a bit of a sophomore slump.

 

[tim_redd]

Didn't Simms completely demolish Conditt?

Maybe that's why he didn't play him against Simms more?

I don't think Conditt should only play for 5 minutes, but I can't remember the last time Conditt played well.

I don't fully agree with just benching him the rest of the game. Coach him up a little and give him another chance. Give him some minutes when Simms was on the bench with foul trouble. It was probably a big blow to his confidence, but maybe it's the wake up call he needs.

 

[Statefan10]

I don't fully agree with just benching him the rest of the game. Coach him up a little and give him another chance. Give him some minutes when Simms was on the bench with foul trouble. It was probably a big blow to his confidence, but maybe it's the wake up call he needs.

For whatever reason, Conditt has not played well every since his insertion into the starting lineup. He's missed countless layups, has had some dumb turnovers, and has given up numerous offensive rebounds by his inability to put a body on some body. He's good and he'll continue to work through his grooves, but Solomon has by far been the best post player over the past few games.

My concern right now is Mike, the amount he plays, and the production he's given us. He's been absolutely atrocious. Zion, although still raw, has showed some signs of needing more minutes and possibly taking Mike's spot. Prentiss for whatever reason looked more comfortable coming off the bench and Tre Jackson played pretty darn well, so maybe moving Mike out of that starting role will help him as well.

 

[madguy30]

I don't fully agree with just benching him the rest of the game. Coach him up a little and give him another chance. Give him some minutes when Simms was on the bench with foul trouble. It was probably a big blow to his confidence, but maybe it's the wake up call he needs.

Yep and that would require situational strategy.

 

[GrindingAway]

If I am Prohm I would start TH, Bolton, Jackson, Griffin, and Young. Bring Conditt off the bench. Those 6 guys (if you aren't going to play Lewis) get the lions share of minutes. MJ and NIxon get rotation minutes and see if they give you anything for that game.

Yep. I'm just happy Prohm finally took Nixon out of the starting lineup. I get that Prohm has taken a ton of heat this year and rightfully so but I was pleasantly surprised he did that

I agree with this. In the case of Nixon there were other guard options you had available to put in his place.

With the Center position it's a little tough. Young has been solid in Big12, but Conditt and Jacobson have not been. If it was be I'd be a little more lenient and forward looking and lean minutes toward Conditt.

I also think T-Lew should be getting the remaining minutes that Nixon gets and a few more from others, but I'm giving up on that happening.

 

[Cyfanisu]

I agree with this. In the case of Nixon there were other guard options you had available to put in his place.

With the Center position it's a little tough. Young has been solid in Big12, but Conditt and Jacobson have not been. If it was be I'd be a little more lenient and forward looking and lean minutes toward Conditt.

I also think T-Lew should be getting the remaining minutes that Nixon gets and a few more from others, but I'm giving up on that happening.

Question: what is the reason for MJ and Conditt getting worse?? Shouldn’t they be improving or at least maintaining as time goes on?

 

[larrysarmy]

Question: what is the reason for MJ and Conditt getting worse?? Shouldn’t they be improving or at least maintaining as time goes on?

MJ is out of position. Really showing when others struggle producing.

George is young, getting humbled by better and bigger bigs in conference play, hope he can hit another gear to gain back some confidence

 

[GrindingAway]

Question: what is the reason for MJ and Conditt getting worse?? Shouldn’t they be improving or at least maintaining as time goes on?

I don't think it's as much getting worse as changing roles and people around them. Both are in the role player category which performance can rely heavily on the people around them.

Last year MJ had more shooters and play makers around him that gave him more openings in pick and pop plays as well as more space in the post to maneuver. He's just not a guy that is going to dominate on his own, but benefits off people around him.

For Conditt I think it's a case of role, lineups and competition. When he was asked to be an energy guy off the bench he excelled at coming in, blocking a shot, getting a couple lob dunks etc. As his role expanded he started to struggle. Starting him also changed the lineups he is on the court with. As a starter he inherently spent more minutes on the court with Nixon (bad shooter) and MJ (has barely shot the 3 in big 12 play and spends some time in the post clogging things up). In general GC has been strongest when we've played a 4 guard line up giving him lots of space in the middle. Starting also means more minutes against the opposing starting center. He also ran into some pretty tough competition early in Big 12 play.

It would actually be interesting to study GC in early games against higher end competition to how he's played in the Big 12 to see if there is something else. I'm not interested enough to rewatch many of our games though.

 

[GrindingAway]

T-Lew sighting!

(and he’s really not that good)

 

[CyTwins]

This is why he doesn't play

 

[tim_redd]

This is why he doesn't play

Because the whole team is awful and we need to put 5 players on the court?

 

[Cyinthenorth]

IMO, Conditt lacks the superior athletic ability that you see with some of the top big men. So... that means he needs to make up for that with hustle, ball handling and post moves.

I think George is pretty athletic. He is just super weak. He needs to spend his offseason getting stronger and a bit bigger. He gets thrown around in the post defensively and can't create enough offensively because he can't body any other post defender in the Big 12. The post moves aren't there yet either, he is a black hole on offense right now when he catches the ball in the paint. Hopefully he can find some help in that department this offseason as well

 

[Cyinthenorth]

This is why he doesn't play

Thought Terrence was our 3rd best player behind Haliburton and Bolton last night. Not saying a whole lot, though.

 

[isufbcurt]

My thoughts:

1. Our bigs are easily intimidated by the other teams bigs. They get all flustered and hurry their shots.

2. We pass up good looks for dumb look and dumb passes.

3. We are ball watchers and not tough. A play that sticks out is TL watching a rebound bounce right by him.

 

[madguy30]

I think George is pretty athletic. He is just super weak. He needs to spend his offseason getting stronger and a bit bigger. He gets thrown around in the post defensively and can't create enough offensively because he can't body any other post defender in the Big 12. The post moves aren't there yet either, he is a black hole on offense right now when he catches the ball in the paint. Hopefully he can find some help in that department this offseason as well

He's more of a rim runner that's not used as a rim runner.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

My thoughts:

1. Our bigs are easily intimidated by the other teams bigs. They get all flustered and hurry their shots.

2. We pass up good looks for dumb look and dumb passes.

3. We are ball watchers and not tough. A play that sticks out is TL watching a rebound bounce right by him.

I saw that exact play with TL too, not sure what he was thinking, but I have never seen a team give up so many offensive rebounds as this years team. It has somewhat been a theme of Iowa State teams even dating back to Fred (maybe even Greg), but this year's team is the absolute worst I have seen at it. It is very easy to predict too, when the other team is going to chase down their own rebound.They let the smallest kid on the court for WVU get an o-rebound and put back for goodness sake. Nobody is boxing out. No fundamentals with this team.

 

[CyTwins]

Thought Terrence was our 3rd best player behind Haliburton and Bolton last night. Not saying a whole lot, though.

He was standing around on defense and got pulled because he didn't even attempt to go after a rebound that went right to him

 

[isufbcurt]

I saw that exact play with TL too, not sure what he was thinking, but I have never seen a team give up so many offensive rebounds as this years team. It has somewhat been a theme of Iowa State teams even dating back to Fred (maybe even Greg), but this year's team is the absolute worst I have seen at it. It is very easy to predict too, when the other team is going to chase down their own rebound.They let the smallest kid on the court for WVU get an o-rebound and put back for goodness sake. Nobody is boxing out. No fundamentals with this team.

Yeah. I don't even care about "boxing out" (because when we do box out we just glue ourselves to a guy and do nothing) just be a fing athlete and get a rebound instead of watching.