To me this comes across as elitist snobbery, but still interesting to read.
https://apple.news/AIpWOk99BPZSQO6pDZSjAuQ
https://apple.news/AIpWOk99BPZSQO6pDZSjAuQ
FSU talking potential hiring of Campbell
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Cool, you dont want him, and we do, so I guess well just keep him
Extremely elitist and says we beat a 5 win TCU this year by 4 points.......couldn't be more wrong. Says he hasn't recruited better even with success but then shows that our recruiting ranking has increased each year. Hmmmm
Lol that’s awesome. Good luck with that dooshbags
A different perspective on the same job.
https://apple.news/Aa-vFD8CXOKGXBRDInugm3A
https://apple.news/Aa-vFD8CXOKGXBRDInugm3A
Sometimes I think these college Fan Sided sites are hiring guys like ... us. This guy doesn't seem like a very informed sports journalist.
(Also, no way would Franklin leave Penn State for that dumpster fire at FSU)
(Also, no way would Franklin leave Penn State for that dumpster fire at FSU)
Like I’ve said before, I’m not extremely worried about this. But there’s more smoke than I’d like there to be. As always, it’ll be good when all the jobs are filled. And of course that’s a long time from now with the NFL. 
Agree, seems like just some fan writing a blog post for other fans of the same team to get clicks, who did maybe 45 minutes of actual research.
We beat TCU by 25, not 4 points, and our first opponent was Northern Iowa, not Northern Illinois.
There's also this:
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-...latest-odds-for-next-FSU-head-coach-139082381
Lists CMC as leading candidate with 2/1 odds & it says he's intrigued by the job. I'd be shocked if he left ISU for FSU though.
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-...latest-odds-for-next-FSU-head-coach-139082381
Lists CMC as leading candidate with 2/1 odds & it says he's intrigued by the job. I'd be shocked if he left ISU for FSU though.
I live in Florida and I have been following the FSU search on their web sites.
The FSU fans and beat reporters are worse than even Texas people with regard to arrogance about their program.
I don't know Campbell well, but I know he values humility in his players and coaches, that is not the way of the world at FSU.
Why would any good coach want to work for a school that fires a coach in less than two years, has a President and AD that are both expected to be gone in a couple of years, and a fan base that is obsessed with recruiting rankings over the quality and character of the young men brought into the program to learn the game of football? Several people on the 247 site the last 10 days have said Campbell would be a good hire only if the President and AD helped him get an "elite" coaching staff! Campbell would love that!
Schools like Texas and FSU are both struggling because the coaches they hired recently have recruited kids who are head and shoulders above everyone else when the recruiting rankings are made in their sophomore and junior years, while Campbell and other developmental programs work very hard to find the kids with good attitudes, not pampered so they work hard, and have basic skills that can be molded into much better football players when they are 21 or 22 than they were at 17.
I will be happy to keep a guy like Campbell for as long as we can, enjoy the ride, and hope and pray that our fan base never becomes as arrogant as Texas, FSU, and others as we continue to win more games.
The FSU fans and beat reporters are worse than even Texas people with regard to arrogance about their program.
I don't know Campbell well, but I know he values humility in his players and coaches, that is not the way of the world at FSU.
Why would any good coach want to work for a school that fires a coach in less than two years, has a President and AD that are both expected to be gone in a couple of years, and a fan base that is obsessed with recruiting rankings over the quality and character of the young men brought into the program to learn the game of football? Several people on the 247 site the last 10 days have said Campbell would be a good hire only if the President and AD helped him get an "elite" coaching staff! Campbell would love that!
Schools like Texas and FSU are both struggling because the coaches they hired recently have recruited kids who are head and shoulders above everyone else when the recruiting rankings are made in their sophomore and junior years, while Campbell and other developmental programs work very hard to find the kids with good attitudes, not pampered so they work hard, and have basic skills that can be molded into much better football players when they are 21 or 22 than they were at 17.
I will be happy to keep a guy like Campbell for as long as we can, enjoy the ride, and hope and pray that our fan base never becomes as arrogant as Texas, FSU, and others as we continue to win more games.
Weird article... Starts off calling him the betting favorite, then at the end, they say IF they could pry him from ISU blahblahblah...
CMC is midwest. He wears black sweatshirts with t-shirts underneath. He would die down there. Alligators and spiders. It's Africa hot down there.
I love reading that. Complete lack of self awareness. FSU would be 2-9 against our schedule.
Let’s bump is pay another 500,000 to 1,000,000 and make sure he doesn’t go
I'm going to write a reply saying "Why would our successful coach decide to go and take over for Bobby Bowden?"
Like I’ve said before, I’m not extremely worried about this. But there’s more smoke than I’d like there to be. As always, it’ll be good when all the jobs are filled. And of course that’s a long time from now with the NFL.
Get used to it. There’s going to be a lot of smoke around potentially hiring away Campbell until it actually happens... or 20 years from now when he’s still at ISU and two-bit “journalists” have finally figured out he’s not going anywhere.
Main concern if CMC leaving would be that the success hasn't been sustained long enough for me to think the next person is going to be as good.
Also the 'stepping stone' narrative would be back.
Also the 'stepping stone' narrative would be back.
Well, at least it's progressed past the point of a couple years ago when Mizzou fans were debating if they should decide to hire Campbell as if they wanted him he'd jump at the chance. FSU is a hell of a job, no doubt. Campbell has the luxury to pick where he wants to go, and that next stop is going to be a destination. Doesn't mean if he leaves that he'll necessarily never change jobs again, but he's not going to take something knowing going in that it's a temporary job. In other words, if he knows at some point he wants to get to the NFL, I am 99% sure he will stay at ISU until either that NFL opportunity comes up, or it is clear that he has to go have success at another stop before he can land an NFL job. I am skeptical that the latter will be required. Sure, there are a lot of factors keeping him at ISU, but I'd say just as important there are factors swaying him to have some long-term stability. Obviously, family and kids are the big one. The other one is the shared success of Heacock, and what his thoughts are on moving again.
