I wonder if googling things can give you multiple answers as opposed to a direct forum on the subject.
Keto
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I wonder if googling things can give you multiple answers as opposed to a direct forum on the subject.
This is 100% correct. Keto is a bad idea. If you are a type two diabetic, the only thing it does is control the symptoms by suppressing insulin, it doesn't reverse or correct the issue. Suppressing insulin is not a good idea, it is a vital hormone that unfortunately has been made a villain. Also a negative of Keto is it raises your chances of all cause mortality. Not a good trade off at all. Oh and as mentioned above keto does long term metabolic damage.
If you like the science behind it, read what you can from Dr. Jeff Volek at OSU.
Wife and I were long time zone people. Great program and the principles are there with the other moderate protein diets as well. And there is lots of science backing these up as well.
Nonsense. Lots and lots of science on humans subjects support keto in many ways.
And maybe you should post what you think keto is other than just bacon and cream...
Keto is moderate protein and Atkins is generally higher. Think it's all in the macros... All these ways of eating - paleo, keto, zone, atkins lean heavily on lower carbs, more protein and good fat intake.
insulin resistance is a possible side effect according to the nih. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5452247/
every time I see this brought up I'm like cool cool, ketosis is now desired instead of a dangerous metabolic disorder. Nutrition prof in college joked about the keto diet (Atkins at the time) and how the people on it were probably not firing on all cylinders depriving their brain of its easiest fuel. Unless you're epileptic, it's probably a dumb idea.
To be fair, pretty much every diet is a quick fix diet and most return to their former weight.
I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, drink a **** ton of beer on weekends, get about 4 hours of sleep a night and smoke a lot of dope. 5’11” 190# brick **** house
Atkins is a high protein diet. Keto is moderate protein and higher fat diet. Keto diets can vary wildly and probably have wildly differing overall health outcomes depending on what is being eaten. I choose to get most of my fats from nuts, seeds, and other plant sources and avoid fatty meats generally. I do eat wild caught fish and pasture raised meats. Truthfully, keto can be pretty low protein and largely plant based. Personally, I think fasting is more important than staying in ketosis all the time. I'm not on the bacon based keto diet.
I think we've learned that being in ketosis is perfectly fine over short periods. I prefer to drift in and out using fasting, rather than by avoiding carbs all together and concentrate on feeding my body what we believe to be healthy foods from all 3 macro's. Natural fats from good clean sources like wild or at least pasture raised animals, lots of plants including, and some complex carbs that remain attached to their fiber source.
Any diet like this is done. Eat in moderation, eat more vegetables, eat less processed foods and sugars, and you will be fine long term. That is a sustainable model. Keto is nothing more than another fad aimed at a quick fix. Everybody wants the quick fix but it won't last.
Eat a little better, and get your ass in the gym. End of story.
Eat a little better, and get your ass in the gym. End of story.
From my experience, you can have too much protein on keto. I enjoy an average sized protein for part of my meal and then lots of veggies with a pat of butter or some dip or salad dressing. I am not eating bacon as my meal, but rather as an ingredient on top of chicken or a cheeseburger. For me to lose weight on keto, protein is part of my meal, not the meal. Veggies are the key for me.
I guess I feel it is better for me to have a bacon cheeseburger no bun with a side of green beans with a pat of butter than a bacon cheeseburger with a bun and a side of fries or chips and a soft drink.
It might not be for everyone. I don't think science knows what is the best diet yet because so many studies have agendas. I've lost a lot of weight and maybe someday I put it back on, maybe I won't. I am going to try not to, but for right now, I feel great and I feel I can do this.
I guess I feel it is better for me to have a bacon cheeseburger no bun with a side of green beans with a pat of butter than a bacon cheeseburger with a bun and a side of fries or chips and a soft drink.
It might not be for everyone. I don't think science knows what is the best diet yet because so many studies have agendas. I've lost a lot of weight and maybe someday I put it back on, maybe I won't. I am going to try not to, but for right now, I feel great and I feel I can do this.
I do “dirty” Keto. Keto is also an anti-inflammatory diet.
When I eat Keto, my asthma disappears. I don’t wheeze or cough anymore. The effects are largely gone. However, allergies, in my experience, can be amplified. While in Texas, the cedar and other tree pollen would knock me down with horrible migraine headaches. Not had that problem since moving back to Iowa.
I get Keto meals pre-made from Get Fit Grill. Love it!
When I eat Keto, my asthma disappears. I don’t wheeze or cough anymore. The effects are largely gone. However, allergies, in my experience, can be amplified. While in Texas, the cedar and other tree pollen would knock me down with horrible migraine headaches. Not had that problem since moving back to Iowa.
I get Keto meals pre-made from Get Fit Grill. Love it!
I'm not really up on the specifics of Keto, but I generally limit carbs as much as I can. I would have to think that Keto is not a good diet if you are trying to build muscle mass or trying to start an exercise routine for the first time. You need some amount of carbs to repair/refuel.
"Weight loss is the primary reason my patients use the ketogenic diet. Previous research shows good evidence of a faster weight loss when patients go on a ketogenic or very low carbohydrate diet compared to participants on a more traditional low-fat diet, or even a Mediterranean diet. However, that difference in weight loss seems to disappear over time."
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog...mate-low-carb-diet-good-for-you-2017072712089
"In the general population, Blinten said a keto diet should only be considered in extreme cases.
“It can do more harm than good. It can damage the heart, which is also a muscle,” she explained."
"“People are using this for cosmetic reasons, but it’s so extreme that it’s dangerous,” she said."
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/keto-diet-is-gaining-popularity-but-is-it-safe-121914#6
"The downsides: While the research is exciting, there's very little evidence to show that this type of eating is effective — or safe — over the long term for anything other than epilepsy. Plus, very low carbohydrate diets tend to have higher rates of side effects, including constipation, headaches, bad breath and more. Also, meeting the diet's requirements means cutting out many healthy foods, making it difficult to meet your micronutrient needs."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-...opular-diet-trends-of-the-moment/art-20390062
Stop progressing the fad that is Keto. It is dangerous and shows no long term benefit.
