NCAA BASKETBALL CORRUPTION SCHEME

[I-stateTheTruth]

Hey, look, Mr. Assistant Coach - here's the bus that will be running you over.

 

[ZB4CY]

People seem to be ignoring Arizona especially. I don't know why because it is obviously player #12 is Nassir Little ( who now says he is reopening his commitment..lol) and in the complaint he was getting paid 'a substantial sum' which is why they were telling Miami they needed to pay 150k. They are also alleged to have paid Jahvon Quinerly. Sean Miller and Arizona should not be pushed aside in this. Arizona landing Ayton seems to be shady as well.

I doubt the FBI will push anyone aside in this. I think alot of it has to do with the Media and mainly focusing in on Louisville at the moment. Obviously, the coming months will be very very interesting.

 

[rholtgraves]

Surly willfully ignorant of Martin's time at KSU for some reason.

 

[I-stateTheTruth]

You know he is a practicing lawyer, right?

I find Bilas to be interesting and informative on the topic. He has some unique perspectives with his law and BB backgrounds. He didn't across as obnoxious in the two interviews that I saw.

Plus, he said nice things about ISU during the GameDay thing a few years ago. So .... credible witness.

 

[I-stateTheTruth]

Surly willfully ignorant of Martin's time at KSU for some reason.

Do we know all the inner workings of ISU's recruiting?

 

[rholtgraves]

Do we know all the inner workings of ISU's recruiting?

secret KState fan?

 

[weR138]

Little bit different here. The NCAA was always going to turn a blind eye in the name of the prospects of making money. This time, though, the Federal government is involved. Completely different animal. Nobody compels you to cooperate with the NCAA, and there are little consequences for lying to them. With the FBI involved, not cooperating is obstruction of justice and lying is perjury. If you don't cooperate with the NCAA you get slapped on the wrist. If you don't cooperate with the Feds you get slapped on the wrist with silver bracelets and get taken to Federal PMITA prison.

From what I was hearing on the radio on my way home from work, this is REALLY bad for the NCAA - as in the FBI is about to drop a nuclear bomb on them. Their world is about to come crashing down on them. There are at least 50 schools that can get pulled into this investigation just right off the top, and that's not even getting into how this may cross over into other sports, mainly, football, and don't pretend there aren't skeletons in those closets. I would not be stunned if, at minimum, this is what causes the NCAA to lose its "nonprofit" status. I'm curious to see just how many teams get death penalty-like sanctions over this.

I just really hope Iowa State is pristine in this, not just because I don't want to see the institution I spent 6 years of my life at having the hammer dropped on them because they committed federal crimes, but imagine, if they are clean, how they stand to benefit from a landscape that hasn't just shifted, but been completely bulldozed.

I agree. My point about the athletic departments being safe tracks with everything you've stated. The FBI will investigate, individuals will be jailed. The NCAA could very well crash and burn.

...and the accused programs will continue to compete at the level they're at now. There is zero chance that this will damage Arizona et al in a significant way. In ten years it'll be like it never happened.

Speaking of the NCAA, this may be what the P5 has been waiting (hoping) for. It could be used as cover to break from the NCAA and start their own league.

 

[rholtgraves]

I agree. My point about the athletic departments being safe tracks with everything you've stated. The FBI will investigate, individuals will be jailed. The NCAA could very well crash and burn.

...and the accused programs will continue to compete at the level they're at now. There is zero chance that this will damage Arizona et al in a significant way. In ten years it'll be like it never happened.

Speaking of the NCAA, this may be what the P5 has been waiting (hoping) for. It could be used as cover to break from the NCAA and start their own league.

I don't get this, start a new league stuff? What start a new league that allows shoe companies to pay players?

 

[cycloner29]

Can we have the FBI investigate all the hawk trollers here on CF!!

 

[Dandy]

Resident financial analyst with his take:

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

Why does this stop after we start paying players? I don't think this stops, or any additional compensation, if we move to pay college athletes. Someone will want more, someone will be willing to pay more.

do professional leagues pay players under the table?

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

Do we know all the inner workings of ISU's recruiting?

have you ever read a recruiting thread on CF? if so, the answer is a resounding "yes". we know everything about everything.

 

[oldman]

I know there is no way he'll get that much, but that seems a tad excessive.

Heck, with parole you only have to do 7-8 for 3rd degree murder.

 

[I-stateTheTruth]

secret KState fan?

Busted.

I'm even wearing purple underwear.

 

[CtownCyclone]

do professional leagues pay players under the table?

So we're going to be paying players NBA money?

 

[jbhtexas]

do professional leagues pay players under the table?

Why does this matter? College players would still be paid far less than professionals, so there would still be an impetus for an agent to snag the best players so said agent could make $$$ when the college player goes pro.

 

[Pat]

do professional leagues pay players under the table?

Some, probably, to circumvent salary caps. But the big $ is from shoe companies. Maybe boosters still slip kids money, but if they already have a $100k shoe deal, the other money suddenly becomes a lot less impactful.

 

[TheHelgo]

Resident financial analyst with his take:

Nike's stock is not down on this news. They reported underwhelming earnings last night after the bell. Their forward looking revenue outlook was also below expectations. Those are the reasons Nike is trading lower - not the CBB scandal. And, yes, my career is as an investment analyst / portfolio manager.

This is not to say that Nike may not ultimately see some stock price impact from this scandal, but today's negative move is not based on it.

 

[rholtgraves]

Paying players may eliminate say, a 15k payment to the #50 kid but those top 10 kids that have the potential to make millions for companies and agents aren't going to stop taking money bc they get some spending money in college.

 

[jbhtexas]

for the record - i prefer the college game to the pros. my point was merely that if players were paid according to their market value this wouldn't happen. a 20 year old can sell art or music, get paid for winning a gold medal, get hired by any firm that will have them, but an athlete cannot do the same thing because their talent is sports and not something else?

A 20-year old can declare for the NBA and get paid market value if good enough to make it. However, NBA rules preclude younger players from doing the same.