****Official Class of 2017 Recruiting Thread****

rholtgraves

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You can leave the thread if you are hoping for a world-beater at this point.

Well I would prefer they don't just sign a scrub just bc there is no one else. They don't have to use it. Prohm said himself that if they don't find the right fit they don't have to use it this summer.
 

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Signing a scrub and getting a nice piece that was only very recently ruled as a qualifier are two completely different things. This is how gems are found (sometimes), they won't all work out as spring/summer recruiting is a crapshoot - but ya can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.

If you've seen the kid's film, it's as or more impressive than Jakolby Long's HS senior tape.
 

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Signing a scrub and getting a nice piece that was only very recently ruled as a qualifier are two completely different things. This is how gems are found (sometimes), they won't all work out as spring/summer recruiting is a crapshoot - but ya can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.

If you've seen the kid's film, it's as or more impressive than Jakolby Long's HS senior tape.

There is also no difference between a scrub and a scrub that recently qualified.

I am just not impressed with his numbers or his film. I would prefer they take a guy they know can contribute next year or wait and sign a higher rated kid for next year.
 
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Well I would prefer they don't just sign a scrub just bc there is no one else. They don't have to use it. Prohm said himself that if they don't find the right fit they don't have to use it this summer.

Halsted just posted a a list of some of the other schools that have reached out... they're not scrub programs. Kids in a unique position because he was just ruled a 2017 qualifier last week.
 

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Nobody said they don't exist, although on ISU's level you can exclude Brooks from your example (unless you think we're landing Bowen or MJ Walker somehow).

Why do I have to exclude Brooks? He isn't the same thing as Bowen or MJ Walker. ISU had a chance with Brooks because of the Naz Long connection.

I know that good players at this stage are harder to get because there are fewer of them but that doesn't mean you should take on someone that isn't going to play just to fill a spot.
 

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Halsted just posted a a list of some of the other schools that have reached out... they're not scrub programs. Kids in a unique position because he was just ruled a 2017 qualifier last week.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. I don't take schools reaching out without offering as anything more than that and teams reach at this time of the year, all the time. Even blue bloods do from time to time. Last year ISU took Holden. They also reached and took Kasongo, Ernst, Carter etc.

Let's see. Wichita State, VCU, Texas Tech, Pitt's reached out I believe, UCSB, LMU, St. Boneventure, East Carolina. Long Beach State. Are there any that I missed?
 
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Why do I have to exclude Brooks? He isn't the same thing as Bowen or MJ Walker. ISU had a chance with Brooks because of the Naz Long connection.

I know that good players at this stage are harder to get because there are fewer of them but that doesn't mean you should take on someone that isn't going to play just to fill a spot.
I'm saying that level of player (world beater) is hard to come by this time of year.. and I was saying that in all of my reactions to your comment, not just one. Dillon Brooks level guys (unless there is a pre existing relationship) aren't usually holding out for ISU offers this time of year. DeAndre Kane type guys (nice pieces, and maybe even high level college players, but not world beaters) might still be available or maybe, just maybe, have just become available.

Spin it whatever way you want. Means the same thing, no matter how bad your day has apparently been so far.
 

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There is also no difference between a scrub and a scrub that recently qualified.

I am just not impressed with his numbers or his film. I would prefer they take a guy they know can contribute next year or wait and sign a higher rated kid for next year.
Great scouting
 

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I'm saying that level of player (world beater) is hard to come by this time of year.. and I was saying that in all of my reactions to your comment, not just one. Dillon Brooks level guys (unless there is a pre existing relationship) aren't usually holding out for ISU offers this time of year. DeAndre Kane type guys (nice pieces, and maybe even high level college players, but not world beaters) might still be available or maybe, just maybe, have just become available.

Spin it whatever way you want. Means the same thing, no matter how bad your day has apparently been so far.

Well yeah, I know it is hard to come by. Never said it wasn't.
I don't know why saying I don't think the guy looks good enough is some indication I am having a bad day? And Dillon Brooks was not rated on the level of a Brian Bowen. ISU gets lower rated 4 stars. Also, are you suggesting Deandre Kane was not a huge get? he was more than just a nice piece. He was a world beater.
 
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Desperate times call for desperate measures. I don't take schools reaching out without offering as anything more than that and teams reach at this time of the year, all the time. Even blue bloods do from time to time. Last year ISU took Holden. They also reached and took Kasongo, Ernst, Carter etc.

Let's see. Wichita State, VCU, Texas Tech, Pitt's reached out I believe, UCSB, LMU, St. Boneventure, East Carolina. Long Beach State. Are there any that I missed?

He listed a few other programs that have had tournament success the past few seasons. Who knows what level of player this kid is or will be but I bet he'd contribute just as much as Darius McNeill would, if not more. Just my opinion though.
 
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This is what Cowley has under his info, from before the year. Found it interesting as he shot over 35% from 3.

"Gifted low block scorer that is also strong on the defensive end. Could be a potential impact player for the team."


One thing I found interesting, he was relatively consistent with his scoring. double digits every night, but not sure he scored more than 20.

If you watch the video you can hear the announcer say in one of the highlights against Pratt he had thirty-something at that point...he ended up with 45 that game.

Scored over 20 his last 3 games of the season.
 
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Dylan Brooks would have been ours had we not gave our last scholarship to the Greek kid. We would have had the edge on him had he stayed in his original class and not reclassified. He chose Oregon because they had a scholarship. We didn't. That didn't work out for us. Man could you imagine Brooks on last years team? Ugh
 

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Neill Berry just followed him on twitter
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Dylan Brooks would have been ours had we not gave our last scholarship to the Greek kid. We would have had the edge on him had he stayed in his original class and not reclassified. He chose Oregon because they had a scholarship. We didn't. That didn't work out for us. Man could you imagine Brooks on last years team? Ugh

I kinda remember that. I didn't shake my head very often when it came to recruits Fred brought in, ....but I did on the Greek kid (never figured out that one). Oh, and Buford. Hopefully Prohm still snags a steal in late May/June.
 
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