*** Official IOWA STATE VS TCU Game(Day) Thread ***

swarthmoreCY

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People on this site would sell their children to have a guy like Tony Rampton. It gets pretty moronic most of the time.
I'll take Rampton at the five with this group over your dream lineup of 5 Dodie Dunsons.

Your moronic false dilemma is entertaining, but in reality people on this site are disappointed that we lack ability in several attributes that good post players bring, ones that have a high correlation with being successful. There is a difference between positionless basketball and just not having guys at those positions.
 

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Disappointing all around. We're a better team than TCU and it's not like they have a great home court advantage.

Win Monday, and I'll feel better about it.
I don't think road games are all about the fans that show up, or how loud it gets. It's just that there is such a comfort and confidence when they play at Hilton. Seems like no matter what the score, or opponent, there's always a feeling that they will win. The mind is very strong.

I think winning on the road is similar, but a team has to do it a few times to give them that confidence.
 

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Unfortunately, Iowa is probably better than us, and they start like 4 freshman and a sophomore. We are not a complete team without any "bigs" at all. And Iowa gives great effort every game from every player. We do not. If we decide to play hard, we're not bad, and probably better than Iowa, but we choose not to play hard on some nights.


If you lurk on the Iowa boards (I don't recommend it, but I'm a glutton for punishment), you will find a clear sentiment from the Tavern Hawks that they "love this team," and that they love watching them, come win or lose.

Some talking heads in sports talk call this the "Eye Test," but I'm not dismissing it; I think it has nearly as much validity as the incessant faux-statistical rationalizing that goes on here, whenever ISU loses.
Put another way, our beloved Clones are distinctly NOT passing "the eye test" this year, which again leaves me thinking the term is not without merit. It shows that "lack of ball movement," "too much standing around," "too much hero ball," "why doesn't Prohm do this-or-that?".....and on and on, are just symptoms of something hard to define, and "the eye test" is just as good a clarifier as anything else.

I detest McCaffery for many reason, let me state, and I have a personal animus about Iowa City and their entire smug superiority complex, but right now, McCaffery is clearly outcoaching (and out-recruiting, and out-evaluating) Steve Prohm at an alarming point.

That game in I.C. in December was more than just "one game," in its implications, to me. Especially in light of "freshmen vs. seniors."
 
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If you lurk on the Iowa boards (I don't recommend it, but I'm a glutton for punishment), you will find a clear sentiment from the Tavern Hawks that they "love this team," and that they love watching them, come win or lose.

Some talking heads in sports talk call this the "Eye Test," but I'm not dismissing it; I think it has nearly as much validity as the incessant faux-statistical rationalizing that goes on here, whenever ISU loses.
Put another way, our beloved Clones are distinctly NOT passing "the eye test" this year, which again leaves me thinking the term is not without merit. It shows that "lack of ball movement," "too much standing around," "too much hero ball," "why doesn't Prohm do this-or-that?".....and on and on, are just symptoms of something hard to define, and "the eye test" is just as good a clarifier as anything else.

I detest McCaffery for many reason, let me state, and I have a personal animus about Iowa City and their entire smug superiority complex, but right now, McCaffery is clearly outcoaching (and out-recruiting, and out-evaluating) Steve Prohm at an alarming point.

That game in I.C. in December was more than just "one game," in its implications, to me. Especially in light of "freshmen vs. seniors."

So Fran has a Lindell Wigginton coming in? We are 2 expected big men short this year in Malou and Lard having those guys would eliminate a lot of size problems
 
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So Fran has a Lindell Wigginton coming in? We are 2 expected big men short this year in Malou and Lard having those guys would eliminate a lot of size problems
People need to stop pointing to the Lard and malou excuses. Prohm understood the risks involved with recruiting them. Hope Lard will at least work out in the end
 

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Since when is there nothing between a guard and what we call a big? He was a small forward who was forced to defend the post due to team circumstances. I suppose you would consider Hogue and Ejim 'bigs' as well?

I fail to see how a 6'8" forward is not a "big".
 

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I fail to see how a 6'8" forward is not a "big".
Style of play? How many 'bigs' do you know run an offense, bring the ball up the floor, shoot 3's, slash to the hoop more than back down/post up, and rebound like a guard? Niang was a SF. Or point forward if you want to get mythical with it
 

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Style of play? How many 'bigs' do you know run an offense, bring the ball up the floor, shoot 3's, slash to the hoop more than back down/post up, and rebound like a guard? Niang was a SF. Or point forward if you want to get mythical with it

Ah, so you just want less skilled forwards. Got it.
 

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Lost on the road to a good team and didn't play the best. Thought they would go 2-1 over these games so just have to win tonight and it is a winnable game. KU's defense hasn't been great since conference play started so just have to have a good game, stick to the game plan and pull out the win.