***Official 2016 National Cyning Day Thread***

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Nice class. The only thing that might have made it better is another OL or two, like Powell, Castillo and/or Campbell. But then, I'm a greedy son of a gun.
 

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Here is more good news:

"Light appetizers and a cash bar for beverages will be provided" at the Signing Day Celebration!
 

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Agree....what I would say is the old staff was more "old school" and this group is VERY new school...and they are working their tails off. I know some is philosophy, but someone said when Rhoads was let go the "hard hat" mentality is one that may not connect with youth...and it seems Campbell is also about hard work, but has it framed in the form of "excellence/accountability/buying in" and I think that can resonate differently with young people (but still the same goal of working hard, etc).

I know folks at KSU and the stories they tell of the 90s and Snyder's staff is exactly what you shared...they were WORKING all hours and perfecting the little things as they developed the talent they could get.

As someone that knows some members of Snyder's family I can vouch for this kind of work ethic. I stayed at his residence after the Iowa State game this season. He pulled in around 12:30 that Saturday night and was up and out of the house by 6:30 the next morning. We pulled into the athletic complex around 9 to get a tour and he was the only one in the entire building.

I can only imagine what its like if they would have lost that game. I doubt he would have been home at all.
 

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For the record, according to Scout, this year's class ranked 27, 8, 21, and 32 slots better in their rankings than last 4 classes at ISU.

Now get them on campus and develop them into Big 12 players .
 

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For the record, according to Scout, this year's class ranked 27, 8, 21, and 32 slots better in their rankings than last 4 classes at ISU.

Now get them on campus and develop them into Big 12 players .


How does it compare to the first recruiting years of Rhoads and Chizik? There may be a bit of a novelty effect with a brand new coach. However, maybe I've just had too much koolaid, but I think this staff will be able to sustain it.

Also, how does this recruiting class compare with Campbell's classes at Toledo?
 

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Amazing what this Campbell and his staff have accomplished in just 2 months of work. You can't say this staff doesn't work their tails off in the recruiting trails.
 

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I forgot today was Wednesday, the day my son's school let's out at 12:20 every week. Guess I shouldn't have stayed up this morning. School called and woke me up at 12:45. Oops.

Anyways, woke up to see that we signed all the guys we expected to plus a couple of surprises. Any word on Alaric Jackson?
 

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I forgot today was Wednesday, the day my son's school let's out at 12:20 every week. Guess I shouldn't have stayed up this morning. School called and woke me up at 12:45. Oops.

Anyways, woke up to see that we signed all the guys we expected to plus a couple of surprises. Any word on Alaric Jackson?
Hawk :mad:
 

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How does it compare to the first recruiting years of Rhoads and Chizik? There may be a bit of a novelty effect with a brand new coach. However, maybe I've just had too much koolaid, but I think this staff will be able to sustain it.

Also, how does this recruiting class compare with Campbell's classes at Toledo?

In Chiz's first year ISU's national ranking was 69th, 2nd to last in the Big 12. In Rhoads' first year, class was ranked 80th, 2nd to last in the big 12.

Campbell's is above what any of our previous two coaches could do, especially in comparison to the rest of the conference. Chiz's second year, and Rhoads' second to last year weren't bad, but Campbell is still better than both in his first year. Off to a good start, hope they can build the guys up as well as they can recruit them.
 

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He had decent classes but a lot of his star recruits didn't make it. The Patrick Webster saga was one for the ages. He also relied exclusively on a lot of JUCO talent, so he was more like a Bill Snyder in that regard. The Fisher twins come to mind there.

What did happen to Webster Patrick, I was in Vet school and had other things going one, also what is he doing with his life?
 

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As someone that knows some members of Snyder's family I can vouch for this kind of work ethic. I stayed at his residence after the Iowa State game this season. He pulled in around 12:30 that Saturday night and was up and out of the house by 6:30 the next morning. We pulled into the athletic complex around 9 to get a tour and he was the only one in the entire building.

I can only imagine what its like if they would have lost that game. I doubt he would have been home at all.

Thanks for sharing! And I've heard he's maybe "dialed it back" a bit from his early years (if that's possible) :)

Yeah, the stories i heard were his office light being on sometimes at 3 in the morning and such...but certainly many stories about attention to detail....and how that was expected from players, coaches, etc. A lot of that is part of all college coaches, but Snyder invented it and perfected it! I had a friend that got to be around Snyder's football program and shared a film example that blew my mind in terms of the level of detail they were scouting....they had identified a small tendency for an opposing player to slightly turn in one of his feet when that team did an onside kick!

I'm encouraged to hear Campbell and his staff value high character and work ethic (and are modeling it as coaches) and finding THE RIGHT people for the program..which isn't always the most stars (but love seeing, on paper, a good recruiting class!)
 

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This could really blow up in a good way because I think the storm is right for this program to be successful. It has been a gradual process starting with Coach McCarney. Dan raised the program from the ashes that came from almost 2 plus decades of terrible football, the facilities started to get built with the little things done to JTS, press box, indoor practice facility, Jacobsen building and bowl games again. What didn't happen for McCarney is a consistently full stadium and donations, it was drying up.

Chiz came in and got some decent recruits, but more importantly we started filling the stadium.

CPR then came in and after 3 years of futility revitalized the program and took us to a bowl. Had some of the biggest wins in the history of the program. Stadium began to be consistently sold out, donations were coming in, we upgraded the stadium with the south end zone, football facility and weight rooms. Paul's personality fit our fanbase to a T, had a big chip on his shoulder just like most of us have. Obviously the Big 12 cash helped tremendously. Paul gave us some great things and I appreciate everything he did here like I did Coach Mac before him. Honestly the Chiz contributed a little in his time here.

My point is Matt Campbell has had 20 years of help to build this program from each of the previous 3 coaches and the administration has gotten things done to have a successful program in the face of only a little success. CMC has knocked everything he has done at ISU to this point out of the park starting with his opening press conference. He has backed it up with an obvious work ethic and the ability to close the deal today with these kids. Next up is coaching them up, currently I have little doubt he can do it. He hasn't failed in anything yet I don't expect him to start.
 

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It's on the Mediacom Cyclones.tv channel but not online.

Edit: I clicked on Matt Campbell Signing Day Media Conference link and I can watch it without signing into my account.

http://www.cyclones.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&id=1607377&catid=0



You guys must watch this. It is fantastic.

He gives fun facts (such as 3 were All-Americans in high school), thanks any and everyone (including all coaches' wives by name), brags about the campus (including Beardshear and Howe Halls), wants to be outstanding from players 1 to 105, talks about Zeb Noland, d-line, possibility of departures because of graduation, greyshirting (said "we won't put any player at risk" or something like that), Jacob Park, Joel Lanning as ultimate competitor, Bailey brothers, Tyler Catalina, already had a good day working on 2017 class, Chase Allen (a "wow guy" for whom he watched multiple game films), giving staff tomorrow through Sunday off (to move), his family will come in March after Baby 4, expectations for players (be at class 10 minutes early and sit in the first two rows), and needing Fall camp to know who will play since they are just getting to know the current players now (best players play).

I expect they will show this again on Mediacom tonight and soon have it on the cyclones.tv site (probably with free access since the live one was).
 

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Not saying it is going to happen but just think of we could win 7 games this next year. ..that could be huge in his next year's recruiting class which will be his most important

Will the returning players need an exorcism or any kind of therapy to get the "we know how to lose" out of their systems? I feel one could help me after watching the KSU game.