ISU Offense

[mikedp]

Just heard Tommy B on Murph & Andy 1460 where as he mentioned our offense is sub par for team in Power 5 conference, which made me think how do we compare to that team in E. IA, I also put in each team's first 7 games opp and their AP rank as of this week. Not disagreeing with Tommy B, just saying strength of schedule might have something to say about this. Yes I'm on board with playing every team and will accept we have to be able to coach for this league while attracting players who can play also. I'll also say I expected us to come out 5-0 with a minimum of 4-1. Need to play complete game on Offense and hopefully we see that these last few games, ok have to go drink more playoff Kool-Aid!

I was going to title this ISU vs. IA Offenses but to keep trolls at bay, numbers below from ESPN weekly stats, fyi.

	ISU	IA
Games	7 (2-5)	7 (7-0)
Rushing Yards	1252	1501
Rushes	283	303
Ave Rush/Att	4.4	5.0
Passing Yards	1705	1447
Pass Completed	147	117
Ave Pass Yards/Complete	11.60	12.37
Pass (Att-Complete-Int-TD)	241-147-8-12	191-117-3-9
Total Yards	2957	2948
Ave Yards P/Game	422.43	421.14
	AP Poll this week
	ISU vs Opp	IA vs. Opp
	UNI	IL State
	IA (10)	ISU
	Toledo (20)	Pitt (23)
	KS	N. TX
	TTU	WI
	TCU (5)	IL
	Baylor (2)	NW

 

[Hoiball92]

They're pretty similar

 

[ahaselhu]

While we've played a tougher schedule thus far, Iowa has played better defenses. The gap isn't huge, but it's significant.

 

[19clone91]

Yah but Iowa "dominated the second half" remember????

 

[SCNCY]

Short of scoring, all of our other offensive stats are fine.

 

[Hoiball92]

If we had a most consistent QB we would have more passing yards

 

[ahaselhu]

BTW, the average per rush is 4.96 since we named Warren the #1 RB.

 

[mikedp]

While we've played a tougher schedule thus far, Iowa has played better defenses. The gap isn't huge, but it's significant.

Would agree, but we have to play to score in the B12 and why our O is subpar in B12 as Tommy mentioned,

 

[ahaselhu]

Would agree, but we have to play to score in the B12 and why our O is subpar in B12 as Tommy mentioned,

I'm not following you. What do you mean?

 

[AdamJGray]

Iowa doesn't have better players on offense than ISU does. They just have an identity and system in place. We don't.

Hopefully the Lanning, power spread offense, is our identity going forward and we can use the talent we have.

 

[NetflixAndClone]

I honestly wished we ran the same type of offense Stanford ran. I understand high scoring game are more fun to watch, but we won't be able to play that way at Iowa State.

I understand we don't have the players to run it right now, but how about we go after stanford's OC and their O line coach. I bet we can recruit some Iowa farm boys and beef them up to be huge line men.

We can slow down the baylors and TCU of the world and make them play the game our way. Low scoring and make sure we have the ball last.

 

[Hoiball92]

I honestly wished we ran the same type of offense Stanford ran. I understand high scoring game are more fun to watch, but we won't be able to play that way at Iowa State.

I understand we don't have the players to run it right now, but how about we go after stanford's OC and their O line coach. I bet we can recruit some Iowa farm boys and beef them up to be huge line men.

We can slow down the baylors and TCU of the world and make them play the game our way. Low scoring and make sure we have the ball last.

I think we should do more of a KSU offense.

 

[cyclone87]

Yep, those numbers would be ok in the Big ten west, but not in the Big 12. Too many good offenses in the Big12 and average to poor defense.

 

[chuckd4735]

Thats great, but Iowa is still scoring a TD more a game on average, not to mention their D is pretty good.

 

[DeereClone]

I bet Iowa's scoring average is better and Turnovers are way lower. Turnovers are huge.

 

[ahaselhu]

Thats great, but Iowa is still scoring a TD more a game on average, not to mention their D is pretty good.

Yep. The main problem we've had on offense has been 3rd down conversions and red zone conversions. Unfortunately, yardage is meaningless without the points.

However, in the last 3 games we've got a TD on 8 of 10 possessions that reached the red zone, which is a good conversion rate. 3rd down conversion has been abysmal though (13-43)

 

[jahfg]

Yep. The main problem we've had on offense has been 3rd down conversions and red zone conversions. Unfortunately, yardage is meaningless without the points.

However, in the last 3 games we've got a TD on 8 of 10 possessions that reached the red zone, which is a good conversion rate. 3rd down conversion has been abysmal though (13-43)

That is directly tied to the QB. We were actually one of the better 3rd down teams in the conference last season if I remember correctly. SR was also more willing to scramble and improvise last season, whereas this season, he's been content to sit in the pocket, stare at a receiver and throw up trash or get sacked.

 

[TNT]

That is directly tied to the QB. We were actually one of the better 3rd down teams in the conference last season if I remember correctly. SR was also more willing to scramble and improvise last season, whereas this season, he's been content to sit in the pocket, stare at a receiver and throw up trash or get sacked.

This.

We are a QB away from being a solid team. You trolls just stay away, because it is true.

I think we have more starting talent than Iowa, but when your QB cant convert 1st downs, takes sacks, and turns it over, then yeah - Iowa has a better team. QB is like a pitcher in baseball. If the pitcher gives up a HR, then the fielders were never given the opportunity to make a play...QB in football is the same thing if he ends up taking a sack/or AIRMAILS it 10 ft. over a WR's head!

 

[CyCloned]

While we've played a tougher schedule thus far, Iowa has played better defenses. The gap isn't huge, but it's significant.

Over all Iowa has played better defenses, but they also had a ton of yards and points against the not so mean green. They were the far side of horrible.

 

[cuphues]

That is directly tied to the QB. We were actually one of the better 3rd down teams in the conference last season if I remember correctly. SR was also more willing to scramble and improvise last season, whereas this season, he's been content to sit in the pocket, stare at a receiver and throw up trash or get sacked.

I agree with you. It's unfortunate that Richardson has been coached to not run and stay in the pocket versus his style last year. He just has not been good at being patient and decisive. It's not who he is as a player. I do however, think that this is really the crux of the wedge between Mangino and Rhoads. I think Rhoads wants more QB runs AND also didn't have an issue with Richardson scrambling and improvising for yards if he couldn't get the ball to an open receiver.

Hopefully the change to Lanning and Sturdy will improve the offense, because it just wasn't working with the way Mangino was trying to make Richardson play.