Hoiberg Watch 2015: Friday, May 29 Thread

[MartyFine]

What about Archie Miller to replace Hoiberg? Completely different style than Hoiberg, but he's a really good young coach.

Would be terrible for next year's team, and Hilton would be empty most nights watching that snooze fest.

 

[Gunnerclone]

STAIRWAY!

 

[erikbj]

I still think Hoiberg is running into a bad situation, maybe his heart deal makes him realize his window for doing the NBA is short and got to do it now (Bulls have a roster that is make or break). Still think the Wolves would have been a better long term fit for him, young roster, not a lot of expectations.

Still sucks if the story is true the Chieck wanted Fred's guarantee to come here and Fred said no. That could have been the finishing touches to a National Championship squad (still have a very good team).

Oh well, go get Horny and let Otz rebuild this roster for the following season. Then in a year or two Horny can go back to the NBA after winning a championship and Hoiberg can come back if Rose and Co. suck OR Otz can take over the new power that has been building the past 4 seasons.

 

[isuforlife]

this just shows you nothing is as strong as greed and self centered

 

[cyclone1975]

I imagine that Leath will similarly stay out of the way and let Pollard do his job. That is Leath's self-described management style.

"Self-described" is the key phrase here. The Bubu situation says otherwise.

 

[CloniesForLife]

this just shows you nothing is as strong as greed and self centered

Just stop

 

[i4cy]

Look at the Jack Trice webcam ! The sun did not come up in Ames today

 

[IAStubborn]

I think Hornacek would be a great hired, but I don't think its a no brainer. Just the fact that you'd pay $100 more for your corner tickets if they hire Hornacek tells me that he's the kind of guy Jamie might hire for financial reasons rather than being the best candidate.

He certainly could be the best candidate, but he would also beat the most likely option to appease the fans.

So by your standard we have to hire someone the fans don't want, is expensive, and is hard? While you should do your due diligence but sometimes the easy answer is the best answer. I agree though, Archie Miller is an example of a popular choice I think would be a mistake. One thing I would fault in your logic is you don't think next year is a big driver with long term. Given any coach isn't likely to stay more than 4 or 5 years having a great season next year to launch into 16-17 and beyond is critical imo. We have momentum, the best chance of long term success is to build on it not wipe the slate clean and start over. You don't get that much time to always have to set the restart button.

 

[CyStalker]

Look at the Jack Trice webcam ! The sun did not come up in Ames today

That's funny, just looked at it and mine is as dark as the night.

 

[SNEDDS3]

My daily #HoibergWatch2015 routine, open Hoiberg thread, read first page, hit last page, come back and hour later, repeat.

 

[CyStalker]

My daily #HoibergWatch2015 routine, open Hoiberg thread, read first page, hit last page, come back and hour later, repeat.

I would not recommend this ritual. You are really missing a whole lot of nothing.

 

[mjhavlo76]

Absolutely right!

B

Interesting article on Hornacek. IF Hoiberg leaves, we'd all be pretty satisfied if Hornacek stepped in. I think he'd be pretty successful. More success = better chances of sustaining that success, even if Hornacek ended up moving on in the future.

 

[iowa_wildcat]

Yes, I am a Wildcat and not a Cyclone. Just maybe you folks will appreciate a view from someone that has no passion for the Hoiberg situation. Other than money, I cannot understand why Fred would have any interest in the Bull's job. He has an ideal situation right where he is with many challenges yet in front of him. The last Chicago coach was not fired because of the team's performance. He was fired because he did not choose to have a brown nose. While Jamie Pollard is a peach to team with, Chicago's front office is full of insecure egomaniacs. Why Fred, would you even want to give those people the time of day?

 

[jdoggivjc]

this just shows you nothing is as strong as greed and self centered

Speaking of yourself again? Fred owes you nothing and has been open from day 1 that he wanted to coach in the NBA, and his opportunity apparently has come. That makes you the only greedy and self-centered one.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

today I learned big-time college athletics is oppostie of any other job: people report to those who make less money than them. hoiberg > pollard > leath > BOR

 

[CycloneBob]

Yes, I am a Wildcat and not a Cyclone. Just maybe you folks will appreciate a view from someone that has no passion for the Hoiberg situation. Other than money, I cannot understand why Fred would have any interest in the Bull's job. He has an ideal situation right where he is with many challenges yet in front of him. The last Chicago coach was not fired because of the team's performance. He was fired because he did not choose to have a brown nose. While Jamie Pollard is a peach to team with, Chicago's front office is full of insecure egomaniacs. Why Fred, would you even want to give those people the time of day?

Thanks, Wilcat - you're spot on!

 

[mkleve44]

Darren Wolfson ‏@DWolfsonKSTP 4m4 minutes ago
If Hoiberg takes Bulls job -- his if he wants -- cross ISU off Amir Coffey's list. 2016 Hopkins forward cleared next month after ACL tear.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Yes, I am a Wildcat and not a Cyclone. Just maybe you folks will appreciate a view from someone that has no passion for the Hoiberg situation. Other than money, I cannot understand why Fred would have any interest in the Bull's job. He has an ideal situation right where he is with many challenges yet in front of him. The last Chicago coach was not fired because of the team's performance. He was fired because he did not choose to have a brown nose. While Jamie Pollard is a peach to team with, Chicago's front office is full of insecure egomaniacs. Why Fred, would you even want to give those people the time of day?

We can't really figure it out either, other than maybe it's because he once played there and he gets along with the front office (for now - no coach gets along with the Bulls front office for long) and with his health his window for coaching in the NBA may be closing. The problem is it's an overrated roster that to Thibodeau's credit he squeezed every ounce out of with no appreciation from the Bulls front office, the current roster doesn't play the style of ball that Hoiberg is known for coaching, and it will probably take longer to retool the team than the front office will realistically give him.

But hey, it's his dream, so good luck to him.

 

[CyArob]

Darren Wolfson ‏@DWolfsonKSTP 4m4 minutes ago
If Hoiberg takes Bulls job -- his if he wants -- cross ISU off Amir Coffey's list. 2016 Hopkins forward cleared next month after ACL tear.

Thanks Fred....

 

[bawbie]

We can't really figure it out either, other than maybe it's because he once played there and he gets along with the front office (for now - no coach gets along with the Bulls front office for long) and with his health his window for coaching in the NBA may be closing. The problem is it's an overrated roster that to Thibodeau's credit he squeezed every ounce out of with no appreciation from the Bulls front office, the current roster doesn't play the style of ball that Hoiberg is known for coaching, and it will probably take longer to retool the team than the front office will realistically give him.

But hey, it's his dream, so good luck to him.

I think this pretty much nails it, except for one thing. Lots of people are underestimating Fred. Up to this point in his life, no one has been correct in underestimating Fred Hoiberg. I know it's not what anyone wants to hear at this point, but he's incredibly smart and talented and will most likely succeed in his next venture as he has done with everything up to this point.