JUCO DE Larry Jefferson has also de-committed

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Because our offense is better statistically than any point in the rhoads tenure. It may be hard to see because our defense is so bad. Look at the big 12 scoring offense standings pre-kansas with richardson. We havent had a middle of the pack in offense snice at least Danny Mac years.

No. It's not. Where do people get these thoughts??

Statistically our offense is worse than last year.

2013:
Yards/game - 363. 98th in NCAA
Pts/game - 24.8. 91st in NCAA

2014:
Yards/game - 362. 100th in NCAA
Pts/game - 24.8. 95th in NCAA

Last year 9 out of 10 people wanted to fire Messingham during the season. This year, there are people who want Mark Mangino to replace Rhoads as the head coach. WTF...
 

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Too bad. CPR really needed to be able to keep JUCO recruits and avoid attrition on the current roster to be successful next season.

I had to laugh with the statement..."to be successful next season."


Fans said the same thing about Jimmy Dean Walden in his last 3 or 4 years at ISU, and Walden then got fired midseason of a WINLESS final season in Ames.
 

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Agree 100%. I am still in disbelief that a guy decommitted to take an offer from Texas... I mean losing a recruit to Texas? ******* really? Inexcusable and quite frankly embarrassing on every level.

I completely agree. Losing a kid to Texas so he can go to Austin and ride the bench for the remainder of his college career rather then coming to Ames and playing for the next 2 years is inexcusable and embarrassing on every level.
 

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If Rhoads can't recruit good players, which I've seen over and over on CF, why does it matter if we lose these guys?

We can just replace them with other marginal JUCO players.

This is different though. It provides another reason to rip on the coach, so this matters.
 

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If too many more recruits decommit Pollard won't have a choice. He will have to make a coaching change. Otherwise the bleeding continues for the next four years or more.
 

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Agree, Luth. Looking back at Mangino's career, it looks eerily similar to CPR, actually. Problem is we no longer get to avoid the powers in the conference (OU and Texas at that time). Plus, the league is MUCH better now, top to bottom.

Mangino at KU:

2002-2006. Was 25-35 overall, playing TERRIBLE non-conference schedules. Was 11-29 in conference with several lopsided losses.

2007. Lightning in a bottle. His best team went 12-1, 7-1 in conference. Terrible non-conference, avoided OU and Texas. Played the worst Nebraska team ever. Only good in-conference team played was Missouri and lost.

2008-09. Quickly started the return to being KU. 13-12 overall, 5-11 in conference. 2009 was 1-7 in conference (guess who was their only win?). Fired due to alleged disagreement with AD and treatment of players.

There's a reason he has not returned to the HC position after 5 years. Strongly disagree with him being put anywhere near a list that includes Briles, Snyder, Kelly, etc.


I cannot like this enough
 

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[video=youtube;WQZqJ_-WAO8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQZqJ_-WAO8[/video]
 

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Agree 100%. I am still in disbelief that a guy decommitted to take an offer from Texas... I mean losing a recruit to Texas? ******* really? Inexcusable and quite frankly embarrassing on every level.

Losing a recruit to Texas, understandable in isolation. Losing 3 recruits over the course of a week, that just so happened to coincide with us getting absolutely worked by one of the worst teams in college football? That's something more than a coincidence. How about this-- find me another school who has lost 3 recruits in the same week? Maybe, what, Michigan?
 

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Agree 100%. I am still in disbelief that a guy decommitted to take an offer from Texas... I mean losing a recruit to Texas? ******* really? Inexcusable and quite frankly embarrassing on every level.
This is pretty funny. Comments like these remind me of the people trying to defend McDermott and all of the player transferring out.
 

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Mods, can we get an edit on the de-commit threads? Please addend Decommit 1, 2, and 3 and so on...to the thread titles so we can keep track of them and not get confused as to whether a thread coming back up to the top is an old thread or another decommit?
 

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No. It's not. Where do people get these thoughts??

Statistically our offense is worse than last year.

2013:
Yards/game - 363. 98th in NCAA
Pts/game - 24.8. 91st in NCAA

2014:
Yards/game - 362. 100th in NCAA
Pts/game - 24.8. 95th in NCAA

Last year 9 out of 10 people wanted to fire Messingham during the season. This year, there are people who want Mark Mangino to replace Rhoads as the head coach. WTF...

To be fair the offense has never been good with Rhoads as head coach and Mangino had zero say in recruiting the players currently playing on offense. Mangino had success at KU, OU, and K-State. So he has a history of being successful as an offensive coordinator and head coach. Don't think it's fair to judge him mid-way through his first season at ISU with an offense that had been really bad before he came in.
 
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This is pretty funny. Comments like these remind me of the people trying to defend McDermott and all of the player transferring out.

The whole situation seems eerily similar to me.

The crippling fear that we'll never do better and refusal to try.
 

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Wrong, but only if you believe Mangino could be the next guy and he could be made permanent coach now, no interim. Immediately set him loose on the recruiting trail. If you don't see losing three prime weeks of recruiting as a problem, I don't know what to tell you.

But if JP is not going to install Mangino permanently now, then yes, wait until the end of the season. An interim head coach is worse for recruiting than a lame duck head coach.

Hiring Mangino changes nothing relative to keeping CPR at this point. 3 weeks ago? Maybe. You would then have a chance to build momentum on the field. Now, I don't think you have any better chance of that. You still have a 3 win team at best with an interim head coach that hasn't been named the future coach so there is still murky waters. Losing that 3 weeks of recruiting doesn't matter right now and you don't lose it all anyway.

And those of you talking about KU finding success after firing their coach: They won one game. That will change nothing in the grand scheme. Like I said, if you do it early and can get yourself 3 or 4 more wins, it's a decent move. With 3 more games left, it doesn't matter.
 

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This is pretty funny. Comments like these remind me of the people trying to defend McDermott and all of the player transferring out.

Must have missed where I defended Rhoads? The results on the field are not acceptable but c'mon throwing a hissy fit because a kid from Texas decides to take an offer to play at the University of Texas and losing 2 other kids who have been committed to what 3 different schools now?