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[ISUcy08]

I think you are drunk now...read below

At-large eligibility
If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.

No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

This means that 3 BCS teams from the same conference can't be in the BCS UNLESS their is a situation like today if Georgia wins (1 vs 2 is from same conference and both aren't conf. champs so the conference champion also gets in)..so TCU would get the auto spot and Boise St. would be a candidate for the at-large spot

You still aren't understanding, but whatev. No point in arguing. Boise will not be picked even if they are eligible, which they aren't. In your "UNLESS" thing. That is only for #1 and #2 so that Geogia could have a spot for winning the SEC. That has nothing to do with the Mountain West.

 

[jaretac]

2 higher ranked teams in the Big 12 with wins over them. Add in that the BCS limits 2 teams in a conference, and that's why. They still have an outside chance though.

If OU loses today, I think it will be KState.

 

[alarson]

If OU loses today, I think it will be KState.

Yep. 2 loss KSU vs 3 loss OU, KSU gets the pick first.

If OU wins though, probably OSU.

 

[M3MEPLEASE]

I think they should figure strength of schedule more in the rankings. Big 10 is way overrated, Big 12 is way underrated.

How is the Big 10 way overrated? They have no teams ranked in the top 10. Their two highest ranked teams at 10-2(Wisky and MSU) are both ranked behind 9-2 KSU(now 10-2) and OU. Most people are talking up the Big 12 right now, while slamming the Big for being down. If anything, the Big 12 is overrated at this point. Time will tell come bowl season.

They both deserve 2 BCS bids at this point though IMO since all the non AQ schools have losses.

 

[alarson]

How is the Big 10 way overrated? They have no teams ranked in the top 10. Their two highest ranked teams at 10-2(Wisky and MSU) are both ranked behind 9-2 KSU(now 10-2) and OU. Most people are talking up the Big 12 right now, while slamming the Big for being down. If anything, the Big 12 is overrated at this point. Time will tell come bowl season.

They both deserve 2 BCS bids at this point though IMO since all the non AQ schools have losses.

Seriously? Compare the computer rankings to the human voters. Almost all the big 12 teams are well below the computer rankings. The big 10 is typically the opposite (human rank higher than computer rank).

Just because they dont have any teams in the top 10 doesnt mean they arent overrated. And equal W-L doesnt mean teams should be equally ranked. Every big 12 team played a top 10 SOS, while the big 10 got to play 4 noncon games and then a pretty weak big 10 schedule.


Want a really interesting thing about KSU? If they were on the old divisional rotation, this was the year they wouldve missed Oklahoma. Theyd likely be sitting at 11-1 with an easy noncon game and probable wins over CU\NU.

 

[cyclonefreak5]

Correct me if I am wrong...

The only way that the SEC gets 3 teams in the BCS is if

1)Georgia wins and
2)LSU and Alabama both remain #1 & #2 (assuming Ok State doesnt jump them)

is that right?

 

[alarson]

Correct me if I am wrong...

The only way that the SEC gets 3 teams in the BCS is if

1)Georgia wins and
2)LSU and Alabama both remain #1 & #2 (assuming Ok State doesnt jump them)

is that right?

Correct. The only way that doesnt happen is if LSU drops to #3.

 

[GMackey32]

I'd love it if Baylor jumped Michigan in the polls to keep 2 B1G out of the BCS

 

[SvrWxCy]

Well with Georgia falling all over themselves I think it is safe to say we will probably see a SEC rematch for the National Championship game. But, we'll see what happens in Bedlam tonight to get a better idea of what could happen. Either way I believe Big 12 should have two teams and the B1G with one team, a lot of things can happen though when you let humans with feelings and alliances have 2/3rds of the pull.

 

[ccyclonepower25]

Looks like we are gonna prevail with this BCS stuff, unless something crazy happens. Here is my best guess.

Title: LSU vs Bama
Rose: Oregon Vs. Wisc/MSU
Fiesta: OSU/OU vs. Stanford
Orange: Va Tech/Clem vs. KSU/OSU
Sugar: Michigan vs. WVU

 

[jdoggivjc]

You still aren't understanding, but whatev. No point in arguing. Boise will not be picked even if they are eligible, which they aren't. In your "UNLESS" thing. That is only for #1 and #2 so that Geogia could have a spot for winning the SEC. That has nothing to do with the Mountain West.

Boise St IS eligible for an at-large, and being at least in the top 6 by the end of the night is going to help their cause...

 

[ccyclonepower25]

If clemson wins, will the ACC have a qualifying team?

 

[jdoggivjc]

If clemson wins, will the ACC have a qualifying team?

Yeah, Clemson. They may get two in that case (Virginia Tech).

 

[ccyclonepower25]

Yeah, Clemson. They may get two in that case (Virginia Tech).

Don't they have to be in the Top 16? Or are you assuming Clemson would jump that high?

 

[SvrWxCy]

Yeah, Clemson. They may get two in that case (Virginia Tech).

Seems doubtful, VT is in the top 5 all thanks to the human voters. They lose tonight they should drop pretty good in their minds, likely out of Top 10 and computers already have them at 10 and would likely fall to 15 or worse.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Don't they have to be in the Top 16? Or are you assuming Clemson would jump that high?

BCS Conference winners always qualify for a BCS Bowl (see UConn last year, who I don't even think was in the BCS top 30), which means the winner of the ACC championship is in a BCS game no matter what, regardless of who wins it.

The Top 16 only matters for Non-BCS schools seeking an auto-qualifying bid - the non-BCS conference winner (TCU) has to be in the Top 16 and ahead of a BCS conference champion in the BCS standings (which will clearly happen as WVA isn't going to jump TCU). If TCU gets into the top 16 they will automatically qualify for the BCS as the Mountain West Conference champion, but they won't supplant any of the BCS Conference champions of their spots.

Seems doubtful, VT is in the top 5 all thanks to the human voters. They lose tonight they should drop pretty good in their minds, likely out of Top 10 and computers already have them at 10 and would likely fall to 15 or worse.

Which is why I said "may" - I highly doubt the ACC gets two. Boise St has a much better shot at getting an at-large than the ACC geting two.