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BrendanPrunty Brendan Prunty
Spoke to person familiar w/ AM Big East call: Said that major topic was raising of exit fees among lg members. No expansion plans set forth.

Mizzou is really screwing us over. Are you staying? Or not? Make up you damn mind. Meanwhile, the Big East might raise exit fees before we can add Louisville, WV, or Cincy.

Getting really SICK of Mizzou. Enough of the freakin back and forth.
 
ISUcy08 said:
BrendanPrunty Brendan Prunty
Spoke to person familiar w/ AM Big East call: Said that major topic was raising of exit fees among lg members. No expansion plans set forth.

Mizzou is really screwing us over. Are you staying? Or not? Make up you damn mind. Meanwhile, the Big East might raise exit fees before we can add Louisville, WV, or Cincy.

Getting really SICK of Mizzou. Enough of the freakin back and forth.
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Those tweets are vague though. Maybe its not about raising exit fees, maybe its about establishing a higher fee for leaving without the 27 month notice.
 
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alarson said:
yeah, i've never gotten that before either. Texas is always going to get #1 shot at all texas recruits. Bringing in TCU isnt going to change that. The ones who would be hurt more would be other conference members who recruit texas, who would be hurt by TCU's raised profile. Plus Texas gets another guaranteed game in the state of texas (if you look at their scheduling they dont have many games outside of texas it seems).

It may not hurt us as much (TCU probably was already beating us) but it may hurt those a bit higher up the recruiting totem pole.

If anything texas should be the ones pulling for TCU and everyone else should be saying no.
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Only thing I can think of is that Texas has the idea to keep as many of the other in-state schools down prestige-wise that they can. In the grand schema of things, it probably helps Texas now to take them,. as it keeps another BCS league out of annual games in the state, but like Iowa tries to do with us, it is hard for Texas to not try to marginalize and keep down their in-state "rivals".
 
ISUcy08 said:
BrendanPrunty Brendan Prunty
Spoke to person familiar w/ AM Big East call: Said that major topic was raising of exit fees among lg members. No expansion plans set forth.

Mizzou is really screwing us over. Are you staying? Or not? Make up you damn mind. Meanwhile, the Big East might raise exit fees before we can add Louisville, WV, or Cincy.

Getting really SICK of Mizzou. Enough of the freakin back and forth.
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I hear you. Sick of it myself, but the light's going to come on shortly. Whether it's red or green for Misery to the SEC, who knows? We'll see if it costs us anything or not, other than the annoyance factor. I wasn't fond of Misery anyway so nothing changed there...
 
isuaggie said:
K-State president Kirk Schulz talks Big 12 stability, TCU, future league expansion | K-Stated | Wichita Eagle Blogs
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"Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas said the expansion committee had been re-actived only earlier this week."

“We continue to be encouraging Missouri that we want them to continue being a member of the Big 12,” Schulz said.

"I don’t think there has been a decision made."

I see the engrish department at KSU is continuing its fine tradition.
 
cyman05 said:
Thought these tweets were interesting...

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
A 10-team league isn't a final destination. More of a place to tap breaks when/if Mizzou decides. TV/Money input becomes important then.

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
After talking to 2 more Big 12 folks: They're going to wait for Missouri decision. Decide then where to go from 9/10. BYU/LVille/WVU in play

wilnerhotline Jon Wilner
Educated guess: SEC presidents will meet this weekend to vote on Mizzou. Tigers will be in the SEC by Monday ... or "committed to" B12.

wilnerhotline Jon Wilner
Source: SEC ADs "up in arms" over 13-team schedule they saw this week. Strong sentiment to add a 14th.

wilnerhotline Jon Wilner
Source: Neinas' longstanding relationship with DeLoss is making everything work. No one else could have gotten Dodds to compromise

ChipBrownOB Chip Brown
Texas agreeing to TCU in the B12 a major concession to rest of league by allowing everyone to recruit DFW even more.

Thoughts...

1. BYU, West Virginia, and Louisville keep popping up everywhere...I think the league is starting to get schools in order if they decide to go past 10...sounds like nobody knows if they'll stay at 10 or not though...

2. I'm surprised Wilner threw out a Monday guess on a decision by Mizzou. He's making it sound like SEC will vote this weekend on Mizzou to let them know if they make the cut or go with West Virginia instead.

3. I don't think the B12 could've got a better commish than Nienas

4. What does Chip Brown's tweet about DFW recruiting mean? I don't understand how allowing TCU into the B12 really is that big of deal to Texas recruiting. Besides, Texas gets first pick of all the recruits anyways so its not like allowing TCU in really hurts them.
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Good comments. DFW is Dallas-Ft Worth. Rest of the league having semi-annual trips there to play TCU in Chip's (and Dodd's mind) is a free trip to recruit players there. Always got to restrict access I guess.

I like Nienas. Doesn't say a lot, just takes care of business. He's going to be difficult to replace later, and I doubt he's going to want the gig full time.

I'd bet against WV and BYU at the current time, unless something changes. BYU would have been a logical add before TCU, but likely wants more concessions than conference wanting to give. WV has geography and academics against them. I'm thinking Louisville is next in line.

My thought is a surprise team that the media isn't mentioning in the mix if we go to 12. TCU was on a few lists, but wasn't mentioned prominently before. What's the odds of a shocking pickup if MU leaves? Say ND? Or Arkansas changing their mind about jumping? How about Kentucky pairing up with Louisville? Or Arizona/Arizona St.? Throw some big names out there like the media "sources" do. Maybe one of them will stick...
 
New Big 12 chairman: Missouri would be 'real loss' - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com


"And the criteria is we want a school with strong academics, with strong athletic programs. We don't want a school that will be dilutive of our revenues. And we'd like them to be in our footprint, just for the ease of travel for our student-athletes and our fans."
Hargis said that didn't necessarily mean any new members would have to be within an eight-hour drive - as most are now - but that they'd fit "in this culture, this Midwest culture that we have."
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twojman said:
I hate to do this but I nominate myself for best post in this thread.
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cyrocksmypants said:
Mark Kiszla: Air Force preparing to leave Mountain West for Big East - The Denver Post

Don't know if this was poted before or not. Went through a couple pages and didn't see it. A story about Air Force looking to the Big East. Said they were offered by the Big XII but said no because they couldn't compete in recruiting in Texas and would decimate their program.
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Here is my latest prediction:

WVU or Mizzou to SEC and other in Big 12. Louisville and BYU join BIG 12.

Big East picks up Temple, Memphis, ECU and UCF for all sports to get back to 16 for BB. Navy, Air Force and Army join for FB only and Villanova for FB go to 12 in FB.

MWC and CUSA will merge remaining 18 schools (9 left from each) to form a conference.

BCS would then have 10 conferences and ND on the BCS board, so any vote would require 6 votes for majority. 5 bigger conferences (6AQ wo Big East) and ND vote that Big East is no longer AQ, but that highest non AQ school gets auto bid if in Top 12 in exchange for removing restriction on 2 bids per conference.
 
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