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Big East rumblings: UCF & Temple for all sports. Navy, Air Force, Boise St. for football. AF to MVC, Boise to MVC or WAC 4 other sports

We are going to **** around waiting on Mizzou and the Big East will add, up fees for leaving, and WVU, Cincy, and Louisville will be stuck. So will the Big 12 at ten teams.
 
Conference Realignment: DeFilippo Speaks Out On Latest Round Of ACC Expansion - BC Interruption

Interesting comments in today's Boston Globe from Boston College AD Gene DeFilippo, who has now publicly stated the school opposed UConn's inclusion in the ACC during the latest round of conference musical chairs

-- South Florida's desire to keep Central Florida out of the Big East
-- The Texas Longhorns reportedly needing to be convinced to let TCU join the Big 12
-- The supposed "gentlemen's agreement" between Florida, Georgia and South Carolina to keep Florida State, Georgia Tech and Clemson, respectively, out of the SEC.
-- The University of Kentucky being "not cool" with Louisville joining the SEC.
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ISUcy08 said:
Big East rumblings: UCF & Temple for all sports. Navy, Air Force, Boise St. for football. AF to MVC, Boise to MVC or WAC 4 other sports

We are going to **** around waiting on Mizzou and the Big East will add, up fees for leaving, and WVU, Cincy, and Louisville will be stuck. So will the Big 12 at ten teams.
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Yeah... continuing to sit on our ***** doing nothing. Great plan.
 
ISUcy08 said:
Big East rumblings: UCF & Temple for all sports. Navy, Air Force, Boise St. for football. AF to MVC, Boise to MVC or WAC 4 other sports

We are going to **** around waiting on Mizzou and the Big East will add, up fees for leaving, and WVU, Cincy, and Louisville will be stuck. So will the Big 12 at ten teams.
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WVU, cincy, and Louisville aren't hostages. If they don't want to go along with the big east raising exit fees, they don't have to vote for it. Plus i imagine uconn and rutgers really dont want to be tied to big east long term in case another conference comes calling.
 
So from what the ACC said is essentially the Big 12 could have had Pitt if the conference would not have been farting around. Pitt would have been a great get and done more for TV revenue then Cincy & L'ville combined. Bring in West Virginia and the Big 12 adds a pretty big rivalry game. I guess we missed out.
 
im4cyclones said:
WVU, cincy, and Louisville aren't hostages. If they don't want to go along with the big east raising exit fees, they don't have to vote for it. Plus i imagine uconn and rutgers really dont want to be tied to big east long term in case another conference comes calling.
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I know. I'm just tired of the waiting game with Mizzou. I really hope we beat them Saturday. I want that win more than any other game left on the schedule.
 
twojman said:
So from what the ACC said is essentially the Big 12 could have had Pitt if the conference would not have been farting around. Pitt would have been a great get and done more for TV revenue then Cincy & L'ville combined. Bring in West Virginia and the Big 12 adds a pretty big rivalry game. I guess we missed out.
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This about Pitt, if true, I just find irritating beyond belief. How nice would it have been to swoop up, Pitt, WVA and Louisvile, geesh.
 
HoopsTournament said:
Big East ready to go after Boise State? - The Boston Globe College Sports Blog - Boston.com
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WOW...Nothing says Big East like Boise, Idaho and Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Interesting that this Boston Globe story pegs the Big East to go to 12. Makes sense.

-This would be a crushing blow to the Mountain West to lose Boise. For the Mt. West to lose the quartet of TCU, Utah, BYU, Boise State would render their claim to AQ status almost void. They'd lose all perennial top 25 teams. This combined with the loss of C-USA's Central Florida to the Big East would surely kill the merger idea between the Mountain West and C-USA if the purpose of the merger is to gain AQ status.

By adding the service academies (minus Army if they don't feel they have the guts to make the move per the Denver post article) AND by adding Boise, they not only ensure themselves of political clout, but the Big East would go on the offensive to kill any other threats in the near future for a new AQ conference. Adding Boise would not only gain them respect nationally, but they're trying to undercut the other conferences nipping at their heels.

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The article above also cites Louisville as having a foot out the door to the Big 12. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I just don't understand why we can't get a college football commish to oversee all this stuff. Pro Sports would NEVER go through all this stuff and bad publicity. If they were going to realign, it'd be done quickly, privately, and once every 20 years.

Yet colleges keep playing this game with the well being of "student"-athletes. The athletes are the ones who will pay the prices of whatever collateral damages there will be in this never-ending game of poker.
 
A few articles Lether Helmet blog...I'll again throw out the caveat that this blog is more than likely pure fiction, but you just don't know.

1. WVU Has Offer from Big12 - SEC on the Clock | October

Says Mizzou fell 1-2 votes short on the informal vote for Mizzou this weekend. Slive can either (1) buy some time in hoping to convince the presidents to get Mizzou for the TV sets they offer (2) offer West Virginia who now holds a Big 12 invite, and will likely jump to the Big 12 if they don't get a SEC invite or (3) buy some time in hopes of getting one of the Big Fish...like a Virginia or North Carolina school.

2. Slive Pwnes Texas and Big 12 | October

Says SEC network is likely in the works. If the network forms it will likely show high school games on it since it's not a university dedicated network.

3. ESPN/Fox Killing the Big East? | October

Proposes that ESPN/Fox are in cahoots to keep NBC/Universal out of the college football business. File this one under pure and totally fabricated speculation.

4. Homepage | MrSEC.com

Want a good idea of who the Big Fish are for the SEC? This list takes you through who the big prizes are and who are realistic possibilities are for the SEC.
 
Cyclophile1 said:
This about Pitt, if true, I just find irritating beyond belief. How nice would it have been to swoop up, Pitt, WVA and Louisvile, geesh.
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I seriously doubt Pitt is in the ACC due to the B12 dragging thier feet. When the B12 approached Pitt, probably the first thing they did was approach Swofford about joining the ACC instead. The ACC makes much more sense than the B12 for Pitt.
 
alarson said:
Yeah... continuing to sit on our ***** doing nothing. Great plan.
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What the heck do you expect the B12 to do? They don't know for sure if Mizzou is in or out. And there is enough evidence to suggest that the B12 likely stays at 10 if Mizzou stays put.
 
Slive Pwnes Texas and Big 12 | October

What does this have to do with Slive and the SEC? When the SEC forms its network (SEC Network is the end game of this round of expansion, I believe) Georgia, Florida and Texas high school games and highlights will be available from Miami to Kansas City. SEC Net will own 3/4 (or more) of the top high school programming nationally. Since SEC Network will not be school affiliated, there should be no basis for the NCAA to be involved. Any recruiting advantage will accrue to the conference collectively rather than a school.
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Oh yeah, Mizzou jumps in the deep end with the SEC after Slive explains the recruiting advantages to be had against Texas with SEC Net. Slive then turns east to the states of North Carolina or Virginia. Adding one of these states and WVU to balance the league geographically and assure a footprint capable of producing a $40mm annual pay check per member for all three rights tiers. $40mm/year makes the $20mm exit fee recently adopted by the ACC little more than a speed bump on the road to continued dominance.
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cykadelic2 said:
What the heck do you expect the B12 to do? They don't know for sure if Mizzou is in or out. And there is enough evidence to suggest that the B12 likely stays at 10 if Mizzou stays put.
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Not stay at 10 if Mizzou stays put. Its idiotic to keep pretending 10 is a good idea. And even more idiotic to just go to 10 and have #10 be TCU.

We should be going to 12, and then find a replacement for mizzou if needed.
 
To make money, you have to spend money.Big 12 should take the aTm exit fee and help buy some schools to go to 12.
 
alarson said:
Not stay at 10 if Mizzou stays put. Its idiotic to keep pretending 10 is a good idea. And even more idiotic to just go to 10 and have #10 be TCU.

We should be going to 12, and then find a replacement for mizzou if needed.
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It's not idiotic to stay at 10 when the current Tier 1 and 2 TV deals account for 10 teams. ESPN/ABC agreed to keep the current Tier 1 deal as-is with 10 teams and no championship game. ESPN/ABC is under no obligation to increase the current Tier 1 deal if the B12 gets back to 12 teams and I don't think the existing B12 schools are interested in less money by expanding back to 12.

It's possible the Tier 1 deal gets completely re-done with 12 teams but there is certainly no guarantee of that. Since the granting of rights was for 6 years, I'm assuming for now the Tier 1 deal is not being re-done.
 
cykadelic2 said:
It's not idiotic to stay at 10 when the current Tier 1 and 2 TV deals account for 10 teams. ESPN/ABC agreed to keep the current Tier 1 deal as-is with 10 teams and no championship game. ESPN/ABC is under no obligation to increase the current Tier 1 deal if the B12 gets back to 12 teams and I don't think the existing B12 schools are interested in less money by expanding back to 12.

It's possible the Tier 1 deal gets completely re-done with 12 teams but there is certainly no guarantee of that. Since the granting of rights was for 6 years, I'm assuming for now the Tier 1 deal is not being re-done.
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Yep, looks like that is the case, it'll be a 10 team league, the real interesting part will be who #10 is if Mizzou does indeed leave.
 
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