Big Ten Talk: Just a theory

[ChrisMWilliams]

Here's a theory on one way that Iowa State could possibly sneak into the Big Ten.

Just a theory but one I think could work...

Big Ten Talk: Just a theory | Cyclone Fanatic

 

[dahliaclone]

Here's a theory on one way that Iowa State could possibly sneak into the Big Ten.

Just a theory but one I think could work...

Big Ten Talk: Just a theory | Cyclone Fanatic

My theory on how ISU ends up in the Big Ten for a couple weeks is this: Nebraska, Missouri to Big Ten. Pac 10 raids the Big 12 south causing first superconference of 16. Big Ten, SEC, Big East/ACC won't sit idly by and will all follow suit. Notre Dame gets scared, joins Big Ten. That still leaves two spots for the Big Ten to get to 16. Rutgers, Pitt, Syracuse who were once thought to be Big Ten hopefuls are now rethinking things because their current conference now is upping the ante and they may be better off there and choose to hold off on moving to Big Ten. That still leaves two spots for the Big Ten and ISU makes sense at that point.

 

[ItsCyence]

I agree, it is a very long shot but there is a chance.

 

[CycloneJames]

Does anyone think the Big 10 might just pick up the remaining members of the Big 12? Maybe after Mizzou and Nebraska it makes sense to get ISU, KU, and KSU. Now obviously I left out Rutgers, mostly because I'm hoping for the best. :biggrin: But seriously, what do people think?

 

[cyclonepower]

even if ND and Neb joined, it is still about TV sets unfortunately.

 

[helechopper]

This speculation and wishing is akin to the whole Harrison Barnes hysteria that engulfed Cyclone Nation just a few months back. It's funny how when you want something so bad you actually start to believe it will happen, like Barnes going to ISU. But, when the hammer drops, you realize just how thick the fog of wishful thinking is that was surrounding you.

Everyone is looking for an angle, myself included, but the reality is that if ISU were in the mix for joining the BigTen we would have heard some rumblings by now. Ames is too small of a community to not catch wind of an overture from the BigTen.

These are potentially dark time for ISU, but I still have a lot of faith in our university president and our athletic director. Regardless of how things shake out I think ISU will be in maybe not the most optimal position, but still one of some comfort. And regardless of who is across the goal line from our team, I'll still commute to Ames to watch football and basketball games with my friends and family. I love ISU.

 

[erikbj]

let's not get my hopes up.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Does anyone think the Big 10 might just pick up the remaining members of the Big 12? Maybe after Mizzou and Nebraska it makes sense to get ISU, KU, and KSU. Now obviously I left out Rutgers, mostly because I'm hoping for the best. :biggrin: But seriously, what do people think?

Big 10 won't pick up KSU because it's a Tier-3 school, and it's been regularly debated whether Kansas legislation would allow KU to separate itself from KSU to join the Big 10.

 

[DRCHIRO]

If academics are going to truly play a role in expansion, K State has zero chance of finding its way into the Big 10.

Good blog CW

 

[dahliaclone]

even if ND and Neb joined, it is still about TV sets unfortunately.

Not as much if they get both Neb and ND. They would have their big boys and if they need to get to 16, which could happen, ISU makes more sense than a lot.

 

[vmbplayer]

Does anyone think the Big 10 might just pick up the remaining members of the Big 12? Maybe after Mizzou and Nebraska it makes sense to get ISU, KU, and KSU. Now obviously I left out Rutgers, mostly because I'm hoping for the best. :biggrin: But seriously, what do people think?

KSU doesn't cut it from an academic standpoint. I don't see the Big 10 presidents going for it. They aren't a member of the AAU. The others I can see as possible.

 

[DaddyMac]

Big 10 won't pick up KSU because it's a Tier-3 school, and it's been regularly debated whether Kansas legislation would allow KU to separate itself from KSU to join the Big 10.

At this point I'm inclined to think that many state legistatures are going to say "better one than none".

Texas (more than one clearly) cutting loose Baylor, Iowa isn't likely to do much for Iowa State - certainly not play hardball with UofI's fate, debatable if Kansas will still hold KU & KSU together. Rather different situation, but worth mentioning - I don't see any talk of CSU going with CU to the PAC 10.

 

[MoreCowbell]

Chris, the Big 10 actually has seven land-grant universities:

UIUC
Purdue
MSU
Minnesota
Ohio State
Penn State
Wisconsin

 

[ruxCYtable]

Here's a theory on one way that Iowa State could possibly sneak into the Big Ten.

Just a theory but one I think could work...

Big Ten Talk: Just a theory | Cyclone Fanatic

I agree it's a long shot. But I also think it's possible the AD's may have to compromise with the presidents to get what they want. That may mean throwing them an "academic bone," and ISU would look pretty good in that regard.

 

[MNCyGuy]

This speculation and wishing is akin to the whole Harrison Barnes hysteria that engulfed Cyclone Nation just a few months back. It's funny how when you want something so bad you actually start to believe it will happen, like Barnes going to ISU. But, when the hammer drops, you realize just how thick the fog of wishful thinking is that was surrounding you.

Everyone is looking for an angle, myself included, but the reality is that if ISU were in the mix for joining the BigTen we would have heard some rumblings by now. Ames is too small of a community to not catch wind of an overture from the BigTen.

These are potentially dark time for ISU, but I still have a lot of faith in our university president and our athletic director. Regardless of how things shake out I think ISU will be in maybe not the most optimal position, but still one of some comfort. And regardless of who is across the goal line from our team, I'll still commute to Ames to watch football and basketball games with my friends and family. I love ISU.

We are still talking about Jamie "The Shadow" Pollard and I think to some extent he takes his cue to be secretive from Geoffrey. I think if it was LIKELY we were getting an invite you'd have heard rumblings, but if it's just possible those two would have kept it under wraps.

 

[CyPride]

Here's a theory on one way that Iowa State could possibly sneak into the Big Ten.

Just a theory but one I think could work...

Big Ten Talk: Just a theory | Cyclone Fanatic

my theory is they don't really want us given they recognize us as the sleeping giant that we are. get us to the big ten, and the power alignment shifts.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

Chris, the Big 10 actually has seven land-grant universities:

UIUC
Purdue
MSU
Minnesota
Ohio State
Penn State
Wisconsin

Thanks. The list I saw was bogus. I have corrected it in the story. My apologies to everyone.

 

[cyatheart]

Here's a theory on one way that Iowa State could possibly sneak into the Big Ten.

Just a theory but one I think could work...

Big Ten Talk: Just a theory | Cyclone Fanatic

I think part of the problem is that outside of Iowa, people don't look at Neb, Mizzou or any other decent school as being inferior to ISU academically. So you could pick up ISU, but most people think Neb, Mizzou, Rutgers etc give you everyting on the academic side that ISU does plus you get the TV's.

Seriously guys, my in laws are huge Michigan State fans, they were not aware ISU was even in a major conference or was any bigger than say Butler before I came along, and they played them in the elite 8. In Chicago people have no clue either, people really think Wyoming and ISU are about the same size. People are just not aware of how large and important ISU is outside of this state. We suffer from a major lack of identity outside of Iowa.

 

[jdoggivjc]

This speculation and wishing is akin to the whole Harrison Barnes hysteria that engulfed Cyclone Nation just a few months back. It's funny how when you want something so bad you actually start to believe it will happen, like Barnes going to ISU. But, when the hammer drops, you realize just how thick the fog of wishful thinking is that was surrounding you.

Everyone is looking for an angle, myself included, but the reality is that is ISU were in the mix for joining the BigTen we would have heard some rumblings by now. Ames is too small of a community to not catch wind of an overture from the BigTen.

These are potentially dark time for ISU, but I still have a lot fo faith in out university president and our athletic director. Regardless of how things shake out I think ISU will be in maybe not the optimal position, but still one of some comfort. And I'll still commute to Ames to watch football and basketball games with my friends and family. I love ISU.

My only hope in this is the way JP and GG have done business in the past - we heard zero rumblings about the CPR and FH hires. I know you've heard the expression "loose lips sink ships" - it might be the very reason why Missouri, last week being the obvious choice for the Big 10, might be sitting on the outside looking in at the moment, as they allowed this to become VERY public, which turned a gigantic spotlight onto the Big 10 when they were trying to do this quietly. We already know that JP runs the tightest ship in the business when it comes to communication - news only leaks from the AD office when JP WANTS it to leak from the AD office. Perhaps JP is so good at this that when he shows up at Tailgate Tour events, when he shakes his head and smiles, people are actually convinced there is no hope. Perhaps that's just the way JP and GG want it - perhaps they're running all kinds of backdoor deals with the Big 10 presidents and ADs, and intentionally want them out of the media spotlight, as any media scrutiny about any of this would kill our chances at joining faster than they did Missouri's chances.

I know a lot of this is just wishful thinking. All I do know is JP and GG are not only very good at what they do, but they have proven time and time again they are capable of doing what they do without the media leaking it all over the place.

 

[helechopper]

No way the BigTen takes on K-State. I think it's really intriguing how these universities across the country are now having the spotlight shined in their faces in concerns to their academic prowess. K-State for example, is allowed to sit comfortably in it's 100-year-old conference, chugging along, obviously not too overly concerned about being an academic powerhouse. But now all in a sudden I bet they wish they were more diligent about research, grants, federal money etc.

It's like a kid that cruised through high school for three years and then realized you actually need good grades to get into a decent college.