Why did Hamilton not play much in 2nd half and OTs?

kingcy

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He never does. Maybe he gets tired easy. He is still a younger player.
 

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They started playing 4 guards and either Brackins or Hamilton was coming out. Good choice I'd say.
 

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Thats true but Hamilton had a little mean streak and aggresion today

Looked a little like Homan at times.........brief times:wink:
 

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Yes, that goatee was about all that reminded me of Homan today lol. I like Hamilton but he feels weak with the ball at times. He certainly has a knack for putbacks and getting wide open.
 

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I think he is still developing and I am pretty sure there was no need for him against there quick guard set. We needed good perimeter D to cover there guards, I wouldn't say it was anything against his play tonight as he did well (considering Houston is one the worst rebounding teams in the nation)
 

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McD wacky substitution and playing time schematics at its best......

Some of you would understand things better if you'd run through the mind of a coach. A lot more goes into substituting than just throwing a guy out there.

a) matchups (If you're getting burned by a smaller, more athletic team, you have to go more athletic)
b) where does scoring come from (probably can't sit Brackins, DG, MG, etc. together)
c) the clock (Brackins always comes out when a media timeout is near)
d) hot hands (get the guy scoring more minutes)
e) court needs (specifically do you need a 3 point specialist, free throw specialist, etc.)
 
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So what Mac was thinking was Houston going small gave them an advantage over our size down low with Hamilton in the game. I disagree with that decision. One, we have Gilstrap and a couple guard sets that would have no problem getting the ball up the floor against a 4 guard set. ****, Craig is no slack with the dribble. Second, I'd use the size mismatch down low with Hamilton. The kids shooting 78% from the floor and needs more shot opportunities with that high %. Third, but not least, we need him for rebounding. We have a couple guards who are aweful rebounders and matching a team with guards kills us on the boards. Bad choice by Mac if you ask me.
 

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They started playing 4 guards and either Brackins or Hamilton was coming out. Good choice I'd say.

actually Dendy was playing a lot in the 2nd half. Hamilton made every shot, was rebounding very well and was playing solid defense. It seemed when he was in the game ISU was playing pretty well.

maybe McD was resting him for the big Duke game, with Duke's size he is going to need to log some minutes!
 

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They played 4 guards most of the second half, can't have Ham in there if they are going to do that.
 

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So what Mac was thinking was Houston going small gave them an advantage over our size down low with Hamilton in the game. I disagree with that decision. One, we have Gilstrap and a couple guard sets that would have no problem getting the ball up the floor against a 4 guard set. ****, Craig is no slack with the dribble. Second, I'd use the size mismatch down low with Hamilton. The kids shooting 78% from the floor and needs more shot opportunities with that high %. Third, but not least, we need him for rebounding. We have a couple guards who are aweful rebounders and matching a team with guards kills us on the boards. Bad choice by Mac if you ask me.

The reason the change was made was defensive matchups. We were getting burned way too much having Brackins and Gilstrap guard their smaller players when Hamilton was in the game. You are serously talking about the guards being aweful rebounders? Hamilton has probably been the worst rebounder on the team this season! These are his rebounding TOTALS for the last 7 games prior to his 9 rebound effort yesterday - 3,3,1,1,2,2,2. He had 14 total rebounds in 7 games, and in every one of the games except UNI, he had a HUGE size advantage on the opponent he matched up with! Basically in the second half and in OT, Mac went with a three guard lineup and subbed Christopherson for Hamilton, I thought it was obvious we matched up much better on D and got better shots at the other end with this lineup. Don't know what you were watching but it was a good adjustment by the coaching staff and a lineup I would like to see more of.
 

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It would be incredibly tough, based on the experiences this season, to decide who to sit and who to play for any given game. Seems like the only real solid bets are Brackins, Gilstrap and Garrett. For the rest of them, it really seems to depend on the game. Each player has had moments of brilliance followed by some really rough ones.

Usually, by now, I've got a pretty good feel for who I'm most comfortable with on the floor. This year, it varies from game to game, and sometimes from half to half. Perhaps that is the downside to being so deep, and not being able to narrow it down to a solid 7 or 8. It might just take being a little deeper into the season to get the flow right, and get everyone feeling comfortable being on the floor with different combinations.
 
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The reason the change was made was defensive matchups. We were getting burned way too much having Brackins and Gilstrap guard their smaller players when Hamilton was in the game. You are serously talking about the guards being aweful rebounders? Hamilton has probably been the worst rebounder on the team this season! These are his rebounding TOTALS for the last 7 games prior to his 9 rebound effort yesterday - 3,3,1,1,2,2,2. He had 14 total rebounds in 7 games, and in every one of the games except UNI, he had a HUGE size advantage on the opponent he matched up with! Basically in the second half and in OT, Mac went with a three guard lineup and subbed Christopherson for Hamilton, I thought it was obvious we matched up much better on D and got better shots at the other end with this lineup. Don't know what you were watching but it was a good adjustment by the coaching staff and a lineup I would like to see more of.

If you watch the games, for the most part he is boxing out their biggest/best rebounder on defense and is more concerned with that player NOT getting the rebound than getting it himself. I would bet a lot of money that this is what he is told to do. On offense is a different story and that's why you see him do a nice job getting putbacks there. I have been really pleased with his efforts on the defensive boards, yesterday he happened to have some of them bounce toward him, which was a bonus as he has been one of the few actually making contact, boxing out, and doing his job on the defensive boards. Watch him carefully next game when a shot goes up and you'll see what I mean...
 

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Hamilton and Homan have the same skill set and talent. Homan just did it with a freakin attitude. That is what made his game. If Hamilton does not get an attitude and start pushing people around he will never be as good as Homan. He jsut won't.
 

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...The kids shooting 78% from the floor and needs more shot opportunities with that high %. Third, but not least, we need him for rebounding. We have a couple guards who are aweful rebounders and matching a team with guards kills us on the boards. Bad choice by Mac if you ask me.

He shoots 78% because he takes uncontested 10 foot shots and simple put backs. It's not like he's posting big defenders up, calling for the ball, then scoring over them. And his rebounding hasn't really been that good, though he did have a good day against Houston.

He's in the game for post defense and lane penetration defense. If there's limited need for that, why play him? In the Houston game, the perimeter players were beating us, and Craig did a great job of lane penetration protection, primarily because his assigned man wasn't an offensive option at all. If that's the case, play your athletes.
 

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IMO, playing Ham would've been hurting us on D. He's useful against a guy that likes to eat up space in the lane and take close shots (see: Cole Aldrich). He's not useful against a guy that can use athleticism to get to the rack. He's also not a huge shot blocking threat because he's not exactly the quickest guy on the floor, and doesn't get up as much as Gilstrap or Brackins, who are both better erasers.
 

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