Based on that...
Kent State - W
UNI - W
Iowa - L
Toledo - W
Nebraska - L
Texas Tech - L
Texas - L
Oklahoma - L
Missouri - L
Kansas State - W
Colorado - W
Kansas - W
6-6 overall, 3-5 conference record
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Based on that...
Kent State - W
UNI - W
Iowa - L
Toledo - W
Nebraska - L
Texas Tech - L
Texas - L
Oklahoma - L
Missouri - L
Kansas State - W
Colorado - W
Kansas - W
6-6 overall, 3-5 conference record
You are correct, thanks!
6-6...IMO...rather optimistic.
Then again, seeing how I've just been proven wrong in this thread already, I'd love to be wrong again!
6-6...IMO...rather optimistic.
Then again, seeing how I've just been proven wrong in this thread already, I'd love to be wrong again!
kent state-W
UNI-W
iowa-W
Toledo-W
knebraska-L could pull an upset
Tech-l secondary gets shredded but offense plays well
Texas-L much closer than expected but we still lose
OU-L their depth beats us closer than expected
mizzou-W don't see why everyone is conceding this game they lose their best defensive players and some o-line
K-state-w freeman puts up big numbers but meyer puts up bigger ones deffenses are not a factor
cu-W defense dominates in a low scoring game offense scores only once special teams and defense win it
KU-W an absolute domination as everything comes together, Mr. Chizik lead the way south for a bowl
8 maybe 9 meyer and blythe show vast improvement both are 1st or 2nd round picks with bowen on day one 2nd or 3rd round converted into a safety
UNI-W
iowa-W
Toledo-W
knebraska-L could pull an upset
Tech-l secondary gets shredded but offense plays well
Texas-L much closer than expected but we still lose
OU-L their depth beats us closer than expected
mizzou-W don't see why everyone is conceding this game they lose their best defensive players and some o-line
K-state-w freeman puts up big numbers but meyer puts up bigger ones deffenses are not a factor
cu-W defense dominates in a low scoring game offense scores only once special teams and defense win it
KU-W an absolute domination as everything comes together, Mr. Chizik lead the way south for a bowl
8 maybe 9 meyer and blythe show vast improvement both are 1st or 2nd round picks with bowen on day one 2nd or 3rd round converted into a safety
This year I'm looking for qualitative improvements rather than quantitative. I would be disappointed with less than 4 - 8 and 1 conference win, but not surprised. I would be satifsied with 5 - 7, and happy with anything better. But I really don't know what to expect.
Chizik is gonna do whatever it takes to win Big XII Coach of the Year. And Nat'l COTY by year 2.
He may do whatever it takes, but he probably will not have the talent assembled yet to make himself look good. It is going to take a while to rebuild people.
Having no experience with Iowa State football until this year, it is hard for me to understand this attitude. Excellence will result in wins. In what other area of life are things judged by qualitative improvements rather than quantitive? Why should anyone be satisfied with moral victories or unmeasurable improvements in competitiveness, determination or effort? When you take the field in football there is only one measure of success. Wins!
I'm not talking about running anyone out of town. I'm talking about evaluating the coaching staff based on performance.
I know that Coach Chizik will not be satisfied with a 5-7 record or one conference win. He is planning to be in a bowl game and not in Shreveport or Houston.
I'm not talking about running anyone out of town. I'm talking about evaluating the coaching staff based on performance.
I know that Coach Chizik will not be satisfied with a 5-7 record or one conference win. He is planning to be in a bowl game and not in Shreveport or Houston.
The attitude comes from getting our hopes up year after year only to have our hearts ripped out and crushed before our eyes year after year after year.
I have that exact attitude wyckoff, because Chizik took over a program that was extremely low on talent at the key positions, offensive and defensive line. That's not a problem you can address in one late recruiting period.
I drive a '96 Toyota Camry with 255,000 miles. It wouldn't be fair to give it to Tony Stewart and expect him to win the Daytona 500 either.
I drive a '96 Toyota Camry with 255,000 miles. It wouldn't be fair to give it to Tony Stewart and expect him to win the Daytona 500 either.
What if you offered it to Tony Stewart and he took it and was excited about it. And he told you, "I plan on making it into a winner. I have won with every car I have ever driven. I have not made any bad car choices. I plan on winning the Daytona 500 with this car." Then after realistically evaluating the weaknesses of the car went out immediately to upgrade it into a winning car.
At what point would you tell him, "Forget it, I'll just be happy if you can make it to qualifying?"
At what point would you tell him, "Forget it, I'll just be happy if you can make it to qualifying?"
Bryce has an excellent analogy. I like your enthusiasm wyckoff9 and I share it. I firmly believe Chizik will do great things here.
Yet you can't just upgrade a football program immediately as you noted in your previous post. He brought some guys in to help, yet most of them are still not the talent it will take to defeat most Big 12 teams.
The fact that you said this...
Yet you can't just upgrade a football program immediately as you noted in your previous post. He brought some guys in to help, yet most of them are still not the talent it will take to defeat most Big 12 teams.
The fact that you said this...
Tells me you don't know just how bad we were last year and how over-matched we were in so many positions.
I still think we could head into Lincoln 4-0 against a kNU team that could be 2-2 or 3-1. If we beat EIU and don't look past Toledo - that game could be special.
I know, high hopes. And yes, my heart has been ripped out many times and many years being a Clone fan. But every interview you hear or read from Chizik or the players, you can sense that chip on their shoulders.
As far as a lack of depth - we heard that a lot from Mac and it is known that Cotton was loyal to his starting O-line no matter how bad it got.
I haven't heard any excuses from GC about a lack of depth or talent. Swagger started with Majors, skyrocketed with Bruce and is coming back with Chizik.
8-4 or 9-3 - Losses to Texas, OU, kNU, Tech with a chance of beating either kNU or Tech
I know, high hopes. And yes, my heart has been ripped out many times and many years being a Clone fan. But every interview you hear or read from Chizik or the players, you can sense that chip on their shoulders.
As far as a lack of depth - we heard that a lot from Mac and it is known that Cotton was loyal to his starting O-line no matter how bad it got.
I haven't heard any excuses from GC about a lack of depth or talent. Swagger started with Majors, skyrocketed with Bruce and is coming back with Chizik.
8-4 or 9-3 - Losses to Texas, OU, kNU, Tech with a chance of beating either kNU or Tech
I have the same picks as ISUfan22. Basically we have the same schedule as last year, and we have the same talent (we lost the weakest players); what should improve are conditioning, offensive playcalling, defensive coverage, and rushing. All this adds up to one additional conference win, and a 5-7 record. Not a bad year, but 2008 and 2009 will be much better.
I completely disagree. I'll give you a few names...
Curvey
Jackson
McKinzie
I didn't even include the offensive linemen who are on NFL rosters. We certainly did not lose the weakest players.
Twelve games, no bye week to rest the bruised and injured.
Unproven running game. Untested line, offense and defense. Unproven secondary. No depth.
UNI might be very good and make the Division I-AA playoffs.
I can see 1-11. Hope not, but entirely possible.
Unproven running game. Untested line, offense and defense. Unproven secondary. No depth.
UNI might be very good and make the Division I-AA playoffs.
I can see 1-11. Hope not, but entirely possible.
I'll take it a step farther, and I would say that we only had 5 impact players on defense last year. We had Curvey, Moorehead, Bowen, McKenzie, Banks. Of those 5, only Bowen and Banks are back. I always felt Brant was overrated, but he's playing in the NFL so what do I know. Stephenson was a previous All Big 12 player. We lost talent, it had underperformed, but it was talent. Not to mention real quality guys and teammates like Kock and Davis.
I have a lot of faith in Chizik, I really do. But this thread is reeking of the Basketball thread from last year where there were a huge number of loons saying that we would win 18+ games and whatnot.
Last year was the perfect storm - we were routinely out coached and didn't have the talent. That's how you find yourself 4 plays away from 0-12 and getting blown out by 40 by Kansas at HOME.
I am just saying, we didn't have talent across the line that you need to compete at a high level. The players capable of making a big impact are now gone. I'm not the kind of guy that counds on a huge number of JUCO's to come in and provide a quick fix.
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