Teams usually dont make much from bowl trips....and it depends on what bowl you go to. Everything is split in the Big 10 so lowly Illinois will get as much as we do even though they arent going to a bowl game this year and we could be looking at the Rose Bowl. Travel parties also suck up a lot of money but that too can depend on the bowl. If Iowa goes to the Alamo bowl then its pretty basic, not a lot of extra people get to go for free but if we make the Rose Bowl the second string water boy and his family get to go for free. Should ISU make a decent bowl this year I'd expect your atheltic department to spend a lot of the money on people to participate in the bowl game as a reward for the troubles of the past few years...dont look for much, if any to be left over but the excitment it brings can cause future events to take off
bowl eligibility will renovate JTS
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I think he was trying to say there is no way in hell Texas loses the Big 12 Championship game, which is pretty damn accurate.
I just don't get the fascination with bowling in the south endzone. Every other day there's talk about it.
You know what will get the south endzone bowled in? Not having a homecoming turnout of 42,000.....
A bowled in endzone! Great! 10K empty seats to look at instead of the current 3-4K.
You know what will get the south endzone bowled in? Not having a homecoming turnout of 42,000.....
A bowled in endzone! Great! 10K empty seats to look at instead of the current 3-4K.
It would be monumental in Iowa State trying to show a commitment to football. It's entirely possible it leads to less ticket increases also.
We need some JuCos for sure. Hopefully there is a Tim Dobbins and/or Tuba Rubin out there waiting to be signed up.
Really - $30MM or so the past couple years renovating the east and west concourses don't show that? 20 (or so) new luxury suites don't show that?
But 5000 empty seats do?
We can build whatever we want. Until fans show up, it's all for naught IMO.
Edit: How does it possibly lead to less ticket (price?) increases?
and guess what, those seats will be filled for Iowa. Those seats will be filled for Nebraska. Those seats get rid of hillsides. Those seats get you a new sound system. Those seats make Jack Trice Stadium a college stadium and college football environment. Those seats look impressive to recruits.
I'd love to see an endzone project, and then re-do the Jake so that our locker room is absolutely ridiculous. That's how you impress recruits. Move the visiting locker room into the endzone, and have the Jake locker rooms gutted.
Tickets: Simple. You have a target revenue you're shooting for. If you have the ability to sell 50,000 real seats vs. 42,000ish real seats, you don't have to up prices as much to hit a target.
This is what I was thinking. For ISU to actually make money on a bowl game they will need to win out, including the big12 championship. Just be happy that a bowl game is possible at this point.
The new endzone will allow us to close off the hillside seats. If you think about it, the lower bowl of the new endzone will be full with the south hillsides and the current endzone spectators, and the upper deck of the new endzone will be filled with the current north hillside spectators. There won't be as many empty seats as you think, and it will look a lot nicer.
And pretty much an eyesore for the remaining 5-6 games a year.
Point is simple. Fans don't show up enough, or in great enough numbers, to warrant thousands of new seats.
I love all the ancillary benefits of getting them. Especially moving the visitor lockerroom out of the Jake (if thats even the plan) But one game a year doesn't add up to a financial benefit. Particularly when you consider that you are most likely pricing MORE fans out, since you are replacing hillsides with seats and they are likely to be more expensive. With what we've seen in ticket trends the past year or two, you're likely DECREASING ticket sales.
Simple - want a south endzone? Sellout games. Bowl game be damned. Make ISU a valued ticket, and it'll get done.
It's not on donors, it's not on the team or some bowl bid. It's on the fans.
we would hardly be the only stadium to have empty seats for games. even among big programs. Empty seats still beats nonexistent seats, imho. you dont build to what your lowest attended games are. you build for the higher end, and maximize profit on those games.
No - you build for a balance of cost versus income. Particularly when talking about a renovation.
ISU (and Iowa) could sell probably 70 or 80K for that game. Same probably for the NU games.
I don't see that being advocated. And I don't know what "big programs" with empty seats you are referring to, but I'd guess that any "big program" sells out far more frequently than we do (and probably doesn't have to hold singles to that game hostage at the same time)
Back to the point. Want it? People need to show to the games (and seats) we got.
You take the upper deck and leave them as the $99 season tickets or whatever and make the upper corners the same way. They'll sell.
I just don't get the fascination with bowling in the south endzone. Every other day there's talk about it.
You know what will get the south endzone bowled in? Not having a homecoming turnout of 42,000.....
A bowled in endzone! Great! 10K empty seats to look at instead of the current 3-4K.
I agree totally. If we have a few million dollars to spend, let's expand and build up the football complex, players' lounge, weight room, etc. That will have a much bigger impact on recruiting than empty seats in the end zone...
Without a doubt. Along the way, make sure our good assistants are taken care of an not leaving for greener pastures.
Although and again, I am intruiged by the idea of making the Jake exclusively for the home team. I've had the same thought in the past, but don't recall ever seeing such an idea on the master plan.
I know this wasn't the OP's point, but should we really care if our stadium is upgraded immediately? The capacity might go up to around 60k, and make the venue cooler, but Im just really excited for this team, this year and the future.
I'm much more concerned about paying Herman and Burnham enough $$ so they stay around for 4-5 years +
I'm much more concerned about paying Herman and Burnham enough $$ so they stay around for 4-5 years +
Also you have to plan for the future. Unless we want to be a 1-AA team then our stadium is to small.
