Woodbury.....honest question

[GTO]

I still don't understand how Michigan State and Wisconsin doing well in the tournament for 10 years (while Iowa was not even in there) makes Iowa a better team. Could someone explain that to me? Because that seems to be a huge point trying to be made by the Hawks and I must be missing something.

TIA

 

[Gonzo]

I still don't understand how Michigan State and Wisconsin doing well in the tournament for 10 years (while Iowa was not even in there) makes Iowa a better team. Could someone explain that to me? Because that seems to be a huge point trying to be made by the Hawks and I must be missing something.

TIA

Because, monkeys.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I still don't understand how Michigan State and Wisconsin doing well in the tournament for 10 years (while Iowa was not even in there) makes Iowa a better team. Could someone explain that to me? Because that seems to be a huge point trying to be made by the Hawks and I must be missing something.

TIA

I think the point is that making the final four in a one off, neutral court, lose and stop playing compacted timeframe tournament setting, which you could potentially play opponents that are all weaker than say, the top 5 teams in your own conference to get there, somehow reflects on an 18 game, home/road, months long, regular season conference season's strength. Which makes tons of sense.

 

[milldaddy]

At least he hustles and shows up to practice.

 

[Gitwitit]

I still don't understand how Michigan State and Wisconsin doing well in the tournament for 10 years (while Iowa was not even in there) makes Iowa a better team. Could someone explain that to me? Because that seems to be a huge point trying to be made by the Hawks and I must be missing something.

TIA

Because you homers like to talk about how tough ISU has it with their schedule, and not just this year, but every year. Every year there is someone on here saying that if they only played IA's schedule they would have 2 losses and be a 1 seed. If the Big 12 is so tough "every year" then why have they had 1 team make the final four twice in 12 yrs? The conference does not do well in general in the NCAA tournament.

It's not about Iowa at all. It's the fact that the Big Ten is a tougher conference than any ISU fans wants to give them credit for.

 

[CyTwins]

CONFERENCE RPI
	NON-CONFERENCE	OVERALL
RANK	CONFERENCE	W	L	PCT	RPI	RANK	RPI
1	Big 12 Conference	103	23	0.8175	0.5900	1	0.5984
2	Pacific 12 Conference	111	33	0.7708	0.5800	2	0.5880
3	Atlantic Coast Conference	145	42	0.7754	0.5685	3	0.5806
4	Big East Conference	94	30	0.7581	0.5579	5	0.5684
5	Southeastern Conference	117	59	0.6648	0.5592	4	0.5602
6	Big Ten Conference	128	49	0.7232	0.5461	6	0.5601
7	Atlantic 10 Conference	109	57	0.6566	0.5340	7	0.5407

 

[Gunnerclone]

Because you homers like to talk about how tough ISU has it with their schedule, and not just this year, but every year. Every year there is someone on here saying that if they only played IA's schedule they would have 2 losses and be a 1 seed. If the Big 12 is so tough "every year" then why have they had 1 team make the final four twice in 12 yrs? The conference does not do well in general in the NCAA tournament.

It's not about Iowa at all. It's the fact that the Big Ten is a tougher conference than any ISU fans wants to give them credit for.

I think the point is that making the final four in a one off, neutral court, lose and stop playing compacted timeframe tournament setting, which you could potentially play opponents that are all weaker than say, the top 5 teams in your own conference to get there, somehow reflects on an 18 game, home/road, months long, regular season conference season's strength. Which makes tons of sense.

 

[hawkeyescott]

CONFERENCE RPI
	NON-CONFERENCE	OVERALL
RANK	CONFERENCE	W	L	PCT	RPI	RANK	RPI
1	Big 12 Conference	103	23	0.8175	0.5900	1	0.5984
2	Pacific 12 Conference	111	33	0.7708	0.5800	2	0.5880
3	Atlantic Coast Conference	145	42	0.7754	0.5685	3	0.5806
4	Big East Conference	94	30	0.7581	0.5579	5	0.5684
5	Southeastern Conference	117	59	0.6648	0.5592	4	0.5602
6	Big Ten Conference	128	49	0.7232	0.5461	6	0.5601
7	Atlantic 10 Conference	109	57	0.6566	0.5340	7	0.5407

So the conference has the best RPI, that doesn't translate to success in March:

Conference	Amount of Final Fours	National Championships	National Championship runner-ups
Big Ten	23	5	6
ACC	29	10	6
Big East	20	6	5
Big 8 (Later Big 12)	13	2	4
Pac-10	10	2	3
SEC	20	6	3

 

[CyTwins]

So the conference has the best RPI, that doesn't translate to success in March:

Conference	Amount of Final Fours	National Championships	National Championship runner-ups
Big Ten	23	5	6
ACC	29	10	6
Big East	20	6	5
Big 8 (Later Big 12)	13	2	4
Pac-10	10	2	3
SEC	20	6	3

I'm glad you're a history buff but not sure what that has to do with this season. The Big Ten usually isn't a horrible basketball conference like it is this year. I don't remember a time the Big 12 has ever been this strong either.

 

[dexterhawk]

I'm glad you're a history buff but not sure what that has to do with this season. The Big Ten usually isn't a horrible basketball conference like it is this year. I don't remember a time the Big 12 has ever been this strong either.

You said the same stuff last year...and the year before.

 

[Gitwitit]

I'm glad you're a history buff but not sure what that has to do with this season. The Big Ten usually isn't a horrible basketball conference like it is this year. I don't remember a time the Big 12 has ever been this strong either.

Maybe this is the year someone other than KU gets to the final 4? It has everything to do with this season because you say it every season.

 

[CyTwins]

Maybe this is the year someone other than KU gets to the final 4? It has everything to do with this season because you say it every season.

Guess we'll see. I hope KU loses by 40 in the first round of the tournament.