Williams & Blum Pod: This is March

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Setting the tone for a busy week. Enjoy.

 

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Regarding Blum's brief segment about 2000 tournament, ISU choosing a 2 seed over a 1 seed, preferring to play R64/32 in Minneapolis … is that legend/rumor verified? Was that actually an option available to 1 seeds at that time? (I'm skeptical about it, but have no evidence to refute it).

Minor point related to that (not relevant to Blum’s observation, it's a nitpicky nitpick): Stanford did not get #1 seed in the West … Arizona was 1 seed in West (Albuquerque). Stanford was 1 seed in South (Austin).
 

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Regarding Blum's brief segment about 2000 tournament, ISU choosing a 2 seed over a 1 seed, preferring to play R64/32 in Minneapolis … is that legend/rumor verified? Was that actually an option available to 1 seeds at that time? (I'm skeptical about it, but have no evidence to refute it).

Minor point related to that (not relevant to Blum’s observation, it's a nitpicky nitpick): Stanford did not get #1 seed in the West … Arizona was 1 seed in West (Albuquerque). Stanford was 1 seed in South (Austin).

Pretty sure the Drake loss was the problem.
 

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Regarding Blum's brief segment about 2000 tournament, ISU choosing a 2 seed over a 1 seed, preferring to play R64/32 in Minneapolis … is that legend/rumor verified? Was that actually an option available to 1 seeds at that time? (I'm skeptical about it, but have no evidence to refute it).

Minor point related to that (not relevant to Blum’s observation, it's a nitpicky nitpick): Stanford did not get #1 seed in the West … Arizona was 1 seed in West (Albuquerque). Stanford was 1 seed in South (Austin).
This is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. I know that was 20 years ago but I'm pretty sure you couldn't pick your seed back then either. Besides, I don't know who would want to play Michigan State in Michigan just so we could have played Central Connecticut State in Minneapolis.
 

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Besides, I don't know who would want to play Michigan State in Michigan

That's a large part of my skepticism.

I could understand you'd want the fanbase advantage of Mpls compared to other sites available (as Blum noted in the pod, the subregion sites were "locked" to Regional sites in those days) -- but overall you're choosing a slightly more difficult path, seeding wise to reach Sweet 16 (16-8/9 vs. 15-7/10) and if seeds hold you're at a site disadvantage in E8.

And again, I don't claim to know for sure.

If it's fabricated retroactively, it probably grew more legs since the brackets blew up so badly that season ... two 1 seeds and three 2's bounced the first weekend.
 

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Setting the tone for a busy week. Enjoy.

The time has come! March has arrived!
 

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Yeah I think it’s a really bad rumor. The 2000 team had to very slowly climb the polls for respect, because they weren’t great the year before.
 

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Regarding Blum's brief segment about 2000 tournament, ISU choosing a 2 seed over a 1 seed, preferring to play R64/32 in Minneapolis … is that legend/rumor verified? Was that actually an option available to 1 seeds at that time? (I'm skeptical about it, but have no evidence to refute it).

Minor point related to that (not relevant to Blum’s observation, it's a nitpicky nitpick): Stanford did not get #1 seed in the West … Arizona was 1 seed in West (Albuquerque). Stanford was 1 seed in South (Austin).
For what it’s worth, heard from multiple people today that this was accurate and not just a tall tale. And yes I did screw up regarding Stanford/Arizona.
 

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For what it’s worth, heard from multiple people today that this was accurate and not just a tall tale. And yes I did screw up regarding Stanford/Arizona.

Thanks, man. Didn't mean to call you out for addressing it, I'veheard it through the years and couldn't seem to confirm it. Still seems like an odd choice to make, but that's just my view. ... might be a good off-season pod topic, because I'm honestly curious.

I wouldn't call your switch of Stanford/Arizona a screw-up ... One of those was going to end up in the West so it was coin-flip anyway. :)
 

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Thanks, man. Didn't mean to call you out for addressing it, I'veheard it through the years and couldn't seem to confirm it. Still seems like an odd choice to make, but that's just my view. ... might be a good off-season pod topic, because I'm honestly curious.

I wouldn't call your switch of Stanford/Arizona a screw-up ... One of those was going to end up in the West so it was coin-flip anyway. :)
Ha! I know you weren’t calling me out. I have always heard the rumbles and was curious too which is why I brought it up. Sounds like the NCAA Tournament was a little less sophisticated back then in regards to S-Curve and everything else.