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Cyclonepride

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If Meyer had Tate's "quickness" in the backfield, and nimbleness to escape, Bret would be extremely deadly.

Bret is fast when he gets going, but is slow in the pocket


I could be wrong, but it seems like Meyer's "quickness" or lack thereof is more in his desire to pass rather than run, than in his physical abilities. Plus there were times over the last couple years when he simply had no blocking. It's kind of hard to look quick when you've got guys coming from two directions or straight up the middle. I also think that Meyer probably looks a little slower after watching Seneca in the pocket. He was magic. And no debate here, I think Meyer has better skills, better leadership ability and better decision making. Not that Tate isn't good.
 

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I saw a similiar debate on HR.com about whos better, B. Meyer or B. Banks. Of course they all concluded that it wasnt even close. But they never mentioned the quality players Banks got to play with, or how he was beat out his junior year by the "great" Nate Chandler. The Oline for Banks that year was quite awesome. I think almost all of them were in in the NFL camps at at the very least.
Of course i need to realize that the people posting arent exactly rational. They all have their black n gold glasses on and for all they know that is the only thing that exists.
This is Meyers year to really stick out, cause who knows whatll happen next year with an entirely new Oline.

Banks was a paper tiger. Their running game and pass blocking was so good, anyone would have looked good at their QB spot.

If anyone wants to debate that, just look at the two games they lost. We (and USC) made Banks try to beat us with passing by selling out against the run. I can hear the hawks replies now, but the fact of the matter is that A.) we won, (so did USC), and B.) we both sold out to the run (us especially in the 2nd half), in which the final verdict was the final score.

I remember watching their other games and could not figure out why other teams did not try the same.
 
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Of course I'm going to pick Meyer in a heartbeat, but what I want to post is what I want to see out of Meyer this year in improvement. I could care less what Tate does as he will be going nowhere once his 4 years are up anyway. But Meyer last year had a real problem checking down his receivers. He seemed to have one or two guys that he was going to go to on a play. Yes, he used several receivers, but when he got to the line he seemed to know who he was going to. Favre is great at staying in the pocket, checking down those receivers and staying tough long enough to find the right man. With the weapons we have, this year could be unbelievable if he learns to check down those receivers.

He sure as hell didn't want to throw to Blythe in the 2nd half of the Houston Bowl. Even the announcers were showing Blythe wide open play after play.
 

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I could be wrong, but it seems like Meyer's "quickness" or lack thereof is more in his desire to pass rather than run, than in his physical abilities. Plus there were times over the last couple years when he simply had no blocking. It's kind of hard to look quick when you've got guys coming from two directions or straight up the middle.



I concur.
 

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I agree with the poster who said fans of each school would take their QB.

That said each QB is a great fit for their offense. Tate is a bit more elusive in the pocket, but he is not a QB I would want to run ISU's spread offense. I just don't think he would survive the season having to run QB draws and scramble like Brett Meyer has to.

I would say Tate is a better college QB to date, but I believe Meyer has better upside and a chance to play in the NFL.
 

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