Who ever the is person in charge of working with the offense should be fired on the spot
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Let me tell you Johnny Orr said about Iowa when he arrived in ames...
IOWA HAS NEVER BEEN A FACTOR IN THE BIG TEN RACE!!
Johnny took a Michigan team with Phil Hubbard to the National Championship Game...Has anybody in this state ever done that?
Yes, he was good for ISU. Even we remove his first 4 year at ISU, is his record better than Fran’s if we remove his first 2 seasons at Iowa. Orr won many games against top 25 teams at home but nothing or almost nothing on the road. He also lost many games against the cellar dwellers of Big 8 and Big 12 on the road.
His record at Michigan was good but not great. He made NCAA tournament 4 of 12 years at Michigan. Orr was a good coach and fit at ISU just like Fran is at Iowa
99/00 team averaged 78 pts/game and I don't recall Larry being known for being an offensive genius. IIrc they ran a basic high/low type stuff but had a bunch of players that can could a lot with or without the ball.
Can you imagine what a difference even a Michael Nurse type would make the last two seasons?
Thank god TJ is good at recruiting, because his ability to coach, especially through adversity is not readily apparent to me. we need someone that TJ can delegate to in game that can actually coach the squad, and then put TJ on recruiting full time.
You’re wondering who is in charge of the offense? His name is TJ.
Right? That's my point. If you are this mad...DO something don't just be some soapbox whiner on a ******* message board.
and he coached in a very very rugged Big 8. Even Nebraska was decent under Danny Nee.
Beat second ranked Purdue on the road. Orr's Big 8 was WAY BETTER than the Big 10 Fran has coached in. In any year, there might have been on bad team in the Big 8, whereas Fran's Big 10 has had 5 or 6 every season.
Jamie's interest is in winning games and filling Hilton with rabid fans. If that is being done, his work is complete. Success at the dance is gravy.
Ok, I shouldn't even engage at this point but that's not stopped me in the past so whatever
Let's say I did that. News breaks. FAN CONFRONTS TJ(or whatever)
What's your reaction? Wow, that dude had the balls to do it, or wow what a jackass? There's no situation with you where I'm actually winning in your mind.
You can just say you don't like me and think I'm an ******* instead. People say that to me constantly here and I'm still around so it's not something I can't take. Instead of inventing scenarios I should do just be up front about it instead
You don't have to 'confront' TJ.
Request a meeting with him and pick his brain on what goes into his basketball program, and report back if you had ideas that he and the staff hadn't realized or thought of or problems they hadn't noticed.
Knowing the person who posted it, I think that is exactly what they wanted me to do tbh.
But honestly that sounds fun as hell and actually something I would love to do. May have to look into that over the summer.
The 1985-1986 is still my favorite Cyclone team of all. They may not have been the very best but they were always exciting and always most amazing(and undefeated) at Hilton. I think I have to watch the Kansas win at Hilton that year. That was the only time that Kansas team lost to a Big 8 opponent that season.
"IT'S THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR'S FAULT!"
After that early - admittedly huge - deficit, I felt like the issue wasn't the quality of shots but rather terrible shooting. More of a personnel issue. If you have a line-up with Shune/Jones, King, Lipsey, Watson and Holmes/Kalscheur, for example, on the court, you are lacking in both creators and shooters. Kunc can't create shots; sometimes he is great at knocking down catch-and-shoot 3s. Lipsey can create a little bit but can't shoot. The 5s all struggle with the ball in their hands.
Our offensive options were not good enough in many games this year - I don't see it as the offense that's being run. To win vs. a good team, we needed to really take our opponent out of its rhythm AND have a guy or two have a big offensive night.
The recruits coming in should give us some hope and let's say a prayer for success in the portal. How the NIL thing is working in NCAA hoops is still abstract to me but we have to assume we won't be at the top of the food chain in that.
I'm still amazed that people are turning on TJ on here already. He had an empty cupboard when he came and got transfers to field a good team. Then he did it again (not getting Green and Williams on the floor hurt us). But do you - speaking to those bashing TJ - really think there's someone out there that we could bring in that could wave his magic wand and always have us in the Top 10? With what, better in-bound plays?
After that early - admittedly huge - deficit, I felt like the issue wasn't the quality of shots but rather terrible shooting. More of a personnel issue. If you have a line-up with Shune/Jones, King, Lipsey, Watson and Holmes/Kalscheur, for example, on the court, you are lacking in both creators and shooters. Kunc can't create shots; sometimes he is great at knocking down catch-and-shoot 3s. Lipsey can create a little bit but can't shoot. The 5s all struggle with the ball in their hands.
Our offensive options were not good enough in many games this year - I don't see it as the offense that's being run. To win vs. a good team, we needed to really take our opponent out of its rhythm AND have a guy or two have a big offensive night.
The recruits coming in should give us some hope and let's say a prayer for success in the portal. How the NIL thing is working in NCAA hoops is still abstract to me but we have to assume we won't be at the top of the food chain in that.
I'm still amazed that people are turning on TJ on here already. He had an empty cupboard when he came and got transfers to field a good team. Then he did it again (not getting Green and Williams on the floor hurt us). But do you - speaking to those bashing TJ - really think there's someone out there that we could bring in that could wave his magic wand and always have us in the Top 10? With what, better in-bound plays?
Have you not seen assistants leading the huddle all the time? He defers to them frequently.
Chris has even posted about this.
You think you know what I am saying to do and it's blatantly clear you do not. You're pissed. That's fine. DO SOMETHING. Email him...all you do is ******* complain on here which does NOTHING. Calmly reach out to him with concerns. Not that hard.
I have. It’s so embarrassing. Imagine any other coach in the big 12 hiding behind his assistant as his assistant is leading and coaching.
