When did mankind forget the link between pollution and disease?

[Die4Cy]

What resources are in short supply? There is plenty of food, but it's not equally distributed. There is plenty of space for people - drive across the country and note how much of it is empty.

Equally distributing food, allowing people to move to better locations, providing clean air and water - all have technical solutions. It's a breakdown of politics (as well as the "free market") that results in suffering. That's as far as I'll go to prevent getting it Caved.

People will talk about "science" but without a basic comprehension of economics.

 

[HFCS]

You have to start these in cave or nobody can discuss the obvious causes and reasons.

 

[Turn2]

People will talk about "science" but without a basic comprehension of economics.

Monetizing suffering and death is DEFINITELY a matter for the cave.

 

[madguy30]

There have been a lot of studies over the past 10 years showing how bad air pollution is for people. In the short term it reduces cognitive abilities on top of all the physical maladies. In the long term it can have major mental and psychological impacts.

Regarding politics, we can discuss cause-effect, risk, and technical solutions without getting political. But at some point the science has to be implemented to see wide-ranging benefits, and there are certainly cases where science can't be implemented without legislation.

And there's some things out there about access or exposure to green spaces and better brain development among other things.

I get frustrated when I talk about nature time having legit health benefits because the response is 'yeah it's just good for the soul to get fresh air ya know?'--no, seriously, it's healthy to get into the outside.

 

[Big Daddy Kang]

"we don't the cause" but here's some screen time about it. we're not going to discuss the concept of causality vs. correlation..

 

[BCClone]

And there's some things out there about access or exposure to green spaces and better brain development among other things.

I get frustrated when I talk about nature time having legit health benefits because the response is 'yeah it's just good for the soul to get fresh air ya know?'--no, seriously, it's healthy to get into the outside.

Once again, many times it comes down to choices and wants. Where do you want to live? What do you want your hobbies and vacations to be? Is Sunday watching football more important to you than a walk in the park?

 

[madguy30]

Once again, many times it comes down to choices and wants. Where do you want to live? What do you want your hobbies and vacations to be? Is Sunday watching football more important to you than a walk in the park?

I'm speaking mainly to places that aren't rural Iowa (like I grew up in where access to nature was literally by backyard and wasn't even a choice) and situations like kids that live in areas/situations that don't have that kind of choice.

As far as talking to adults about it, that is more about not acknowledging the actual research I talk about.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

We never forget it, we just put profit above it.

 

[Acylum]

Follow the money

Probably should’ve stopped after this.

 

[dafarmer]

Probably should’ve stopped after this.

Don’t get banned,

 

[Turn2]

I'm speaking mainly to places that aren't rural Iowa (like I grew up in where access to nature was literally by backyard and wasn't even a choice) and situations like kids that live in areas/situations that don't have that kind of choice.

As far as talking to adults about it, that is more about not acknowledging the actual research I talk about.

Just FYI, the video shows that even places like Iowa CAN be shown, decades later, to have had "high risk" areas.

 

[demoncore1031]

Manking has forgot a lot of things. We are getting dumber by the day. I blame the interwebs. People have their faces buried in their phones staring at social media all day long.

 

[madguy30]

Just FYI, the video shows that even places like Iowa CAN be shown, decades later, to have had "high risk" areas.

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Not surprising at all. Is it air or water/ground water or both?

 

[Turn2]

Not surprising at all. Is it air or water/ground water or both?

Not sure, but I’d expect numerous contributors. I imagine particulates would be a biggie. Coal burning, etc.

 

[jsb]

We pretty much knew this already. Lots of old farmers have it. Round up.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Probably should’ve stopped after this.

Why, everyone knows the truth, its cheaper to pollute than clean it up or do it up front and not pollute.

 

[nrg4isu]

Just FYI, the video shows that even places like Iowa CAN be shown, decades later, to have had "high risk" areas.

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I find the sharp contrast on the borders of Illinois to be particularly interesting.

 

[BCClone]

I find the sharp contrast on the borders of Illinois to be particularly interesting.

Illinois has had some extremely terrible pollution. When your river catches fire, you have an extreme amount.

 

[nrg4isu]

Illinois has had some extremely terrible pollution. When your river catches fire, you have an extreme amount.

That doesn't account for the northern border.

 

[Turn2]

That doesn't account for the northern border.

You have obvious areas that are windward of major cities like KC, St. Louis and Chicago overlaid on a backdrop of farmers having no appreciation for the dangers of the chemicals they were using or the PPE needed for protection. I’m sure there are lots of contributing factors and no one magic culprit, looking back 50 years. It makes me wonder what theses maps will look like 50 years from now in areas like Iowa where widespread neonic use has exploded.