Wait, so because the team had a goal of making the tourney you have a right to expect it? Or, even if they expect it, that means you should expect it too? Have you ever been involved in sports before?
What counts as success?
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Wait, so because the team had a goal of making the tourney you have a right to expect it? Or, even if they expect it, that means you should expect it too? Have you ever been involved in sports before?
Your kidding right? Then let them goof off for the 5-10 minutes of the game? HELL NO you play hard the whole 40 minutes...
And I'm just pointing out how far the bar has been lowered for ISU MBB over the past four years.
I don't know about very little talent. Brackins and Gilstrap are clearly better than any two players Iowa has. But, I'd be pretty close to taking Payne, Gatens, and Cole over DG, Christopherson, and Hamilton/Dendy
At some point you should expect to make the NCAA. That could be as a sixth place team in the Big 12. That is why CB stayed another year. Now we are back to a lousy looking offensive team. We make a shot, we miss a shot. We cannot seem to get it rolling.
It's fallen if you don't take into account all the circumstances surrounding the interim four years. It's all relative.
You would have needed some tangible reason to make that statement at that time for me to believe you.
Gut instincts don't count.
I guess as a fan I can expect whatever I want, it means nothing to anyone but me. The team's expectations, a few upperclassmen returning combined with two likely NBA draft picks on this team had me excited about our chances just like everyone else. And yes, of course I've played sports, never at the collegiate level, but my experience has nothing to do with this discussion.
I think we're on the same page here, really. If you look back, I took into account the unfortunate circumstances of the season, and I basically said I just want to see a strong effort. I looked at the season at this point, and to me, success is not expecting post season play, just overall improvement.
Hey look, this guy agrees! I guess one is enough.
Do I want the team to be better? Absolutely! But I'm not sure we're performing a whole lot beneath the potential of this group of 8 guys. The team just isn't that good.
I think we're just not that good. Brackins is an NBA probably. Gilstrap? Maybe. After those two, the talent level on this team is pretty frickin bad.
And that falls back on one man. ISU basketball used to squeeze better results than the talent should have been getting. Nowadays we have all the talent in the world, and would be lucky to beat DMACC.
Would that not be an improvement over some recent games? I'm also keeping in mind that we have no depth, and I know we've had some great teams in the past that only played a few guys off the bench. Like I said, I think it would be an improvement, and right now improvement is my definition of success for the rest of the season.
haha success and ISU basketball in the same sentence? NIT would be nice, or maybe not getting manhandled like little girls every time we play a big 12 team, oh and a top 25 team since we havnt had one of those since mcdermott brought his loser *** to ames
are you joking???? this is not a successful season at this point and you can't change the criteria for success halfway through!!! The ONLY way this season will be a success is a big XII tournament title gaining us access to the NCAA Tournament or McDermott resigning from embarrassment.
