Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

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I'm the only one posting facts. CyTwins heard from his friends cousins sisters boyfriend that delivers Frans mail, that Moss was mad he was losing pt to Connor so he transferred. Truth is grad transfers leave all the time for many different reasons. If you have aspirations of playing professionally it seems perfectly logical to transfer to KU to pursue that goal
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Moss at Iowa was way less turnover prone based off his usage than Connor so why would Connor play over him?
Still flawed. Moss' usage was heavily weighted to the first 30 minutes of each game. Connor's usage was the opposite. They stopped putting Moss in end of game pressure situations because he couldn't handle the ball against the press. It's a strange phenomenon but guys tend to turn it over more when pressed.
 

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He's not doing anything statistically better. It's very comparable. He should be much more efficient considering the amount of talent he has around him.

See, this is the kind of myopic MBB understanding that screams 'Hok Homer'. He is the 7th or 8th option on a talented KU basketball team. Not the 2nd or 3rd option on a desperate Iowa team.

But please, continue on with your random drivel - it is keeping me entertained until the game starts.
 

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I'm the only one posting facts. CyTwins heard from his friends cousins sisters boyfriend that delivers Frans mail, that Moss was mad he was losing pt to Connor so he transferred. Truth is grad transfers leave all the time for many different reasons. If you have aspirations of playing professionally it seems perfectly logical to transfer to KU to pursue that goal

Wait a minute.

Your latest recruit said he chose Iowa because of their propensity to put players in the NBA.

Did Moss not get that memo?
 

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See, this is the kind of myopic MBB understanding that screams 'Hok Homer'. He is the 7th or 8th option on a talented KU basketball team. Not the 2nd or 3rd option on a desperate Iowa team.

But please, continue on with your random drivel - it is keeping me entertained until the game starts.
Which should help his efficiency. The opponents aren't focused on him at all. Hes going to get less shots, etc because he isnt a top option for them but his efficiency should be better. More open shots, etc
 

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Still flawed. Moss' usage was heavily weighted to the first 30 minutes of each game. Connor's usage was the opposite. They stopped putting Moss in end of game pressure situations because he couldn't handle the ball against the press. It's a strange phenomenon but guys tend to turn it over more when pressed.

So Connor was terrible at the end of the game but nobody else was? Seems smart to put him out there. Nepotism
 

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Which should help his efficiency. The opponents aren't focused on him at all. Hes going to get less shots, etc because he isnt a top option for them but his efficiency should be better. More open shots, etc

Brilliant analysis, simply brilliant. Well at least simple.

Who are they setting up the plays for? Everything runs through Moss, correct?

Actually - you may be right - at least they are running plays at KU.
 

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Brilliant analysis, simply brilliant. Well at least simple.

Who are they setting up the plays for? Everything runs through Moss, correct?

Actually - you may be right - at least they are running plays at KU.
He should be open all the time
 

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No, Moss was terrible at end of games which is why they stopped putting him in those situations. He cant dribble well for a sg

He can't dribble well but he was one of the best on the team in terms of turnover percentage and Connor was second worst? That doesn't even make sense
 

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So Connor was terrible at the end of the game but nobody else was? Seems smart to put him out there. Nepotism
You act like they benched Michael Jordan for Connor. Moss started at sg and scored 5 or less pts in 12 games last while still playing over 20 mins. Would you accept that from a starting sg at ISU? Combine his inconsistency with lack of effort on defense and the fact that he is a below average ball handler for a guard, and it shouldn't be a surprise that they were trying to find a different recipe. He was a good shooter and that was really it. He played a lot when they were behind and not a lot when they were ahead. The two NCAA games were a perfect example of his career at Iowa. Really didnt show up at all against Cincy. Caught fire against TN and got them back in the game only to have 2 maddening, terrible turnovers at the end of the game. By all accounts a good teammate but it is what it is and no one is losing sleep over him transferring. Frederick is looking good so far and I'm happy with him as sg.
 

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Still flawed. Moss' usage was heavily weighted to the first 30 minutes of each game. Connor's usage was the opposite. They stopped putting Moss in end of game pressure situations because he couldn't handle the ball against the press. It's a strange phenomenon but guys tend to turn it over more when pressed.
Teams pressed Iowa late in games?
 
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You act like they benched Michael Jordan for Connor. Moss started at sg and scored 5 or less pts in 12 games last while still playing over 20 mins. Would you accept that from a starting sg at ISU? Combine his inconsistency with lack of effort on defense and the fact that he is a below average ball handler for a guard, and it shouldn't be a surprise that they were trying to find a different recipe. He was a good shooter and that was really it. He played a lot when they were behind and not a lot when they were ahead. The two NCAA games were a perfect example of his career at Iowa. Really didnt show up at all against Cincy. Caught fire against TN and got them back in the game only to have 2 maddening, terrible turnovers at the end of the game. By all accounts a good teammate but it is what it is and no one is losing sleep over him transferring. Frederick is looking good so far and I'm happy with him as sg.

Moss is Michael Jordan compared to Connor. Connor can't shoot, dribble or defend
 
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You act like they benched Michael Jordan for Connor. Moss started at sg and scored 5 or less pts in 12 games last while still playing over 20 mins. Would you accept that from a starting sg at ISU? Combine his inconsistency with lack of effort on defense and the fact that he is a below average ball handler for a guard, and it shouldn't be a surprise that they were trying to find a different recipe. He was a good shooter and that was really it. He played a lot when they were behind and not a lot when they were ahead. The two NCAA games were a perfect example of his career at Iowa. Really didnt show up at all against Cincy. Caught fire against TN and got them back in the game only to have 2 maddening, terrible turnovers at the end of the game. By all accounts a good teammate but it is what it is and no one is losing sleep over him transferring. Frederick is looking good so far and I'm happy with him as sg.

This is rambling nonsense.
 
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