Toledo's 2016 Recruiting Class

[UraMallas]

#65 -- Toledo 2016 Class

#92 -- ISU 2016 Class

Think we might want to snag any of these guys? Think CMC wants to bring any with him? Is there room?

 

[Die4Cy]

Most of the "difference" between the classes is the number of commits an established UT staff secured compared to CPR's staff, which most people believed was probably on its way out the door.

Just by having a staff that is likely to be here the next four years means there will be recruiting opportunities today that ISU did not have yesterday. Another important reason to get this staff up and running as soon as is practical.

 

[UraMallas]

Absolutely agree on the rankings discrepancy. I was more wondering if we like anybody on their list that we might be able to snag.

 

[StormnClone58]

There are a few i know that i would be interested in getting/looking into but i know in other situations departing coaches agree not to recruit committed players from their previous school ...

 

[Messi]

not a Toledo recruit but people seem to want to add a QB recruit and CMC has a history with taking transfers

 

[heitclone]

Most of the "difference" between the classes is the number of commits an established UT staff secured compared to CPR's staff, which most people believed was probably on its way out the door.

Just by having a staff that is likely to be here the next four years means there will be recruiting opportunities today that ISU did not have yesterday. Another important reason to get this staff up and running as soon as is practical.

I think this is valid but let's be honest, CPR was nearly always filling his classes up in Jan/Feb. That' means we were dropping the ball or failing to identify the right type of guys to fit our system. It was more than just questions about job security. A good coaching staff should be able to identify their type of guys early and lock them up quick, not back pedaling to fill scholarships.

 

[cycloneinpdx]

not a Toledo recruit but people seem to want to add a QB recruit and CMC has a history with taking transfers

Why would we recruit a graduate player and put Lanning on the bench for another year?

We need depth behind Lanning, not a graduate transfer QB.

 

[UraMallas]

There are a few i know that i would be interested in getting/looking into but i know in other situations departing coaches agree not to recruit committed players from their previous school ...

I wondered about that as well. I guess it depends if he was the lead on any of these guys and if they want to come along with him.

 

[Die4Cy]

Didn't Chiz take some of his recruits along with him when he left? I don't think ISU signed all the guys we had committed that year, but it's possible they went elsewhere...

 

[CTTB78]

.... but i know in other situations departing coaches agree not to recruit committed players from their previous school ...

Matty A. must not have been one of those situations.

 

[ISU42]

Why would we recruit a graduate player and put Lanning on the bench for another year?

We need depth behind Lanning, not a graduate transfer QB.

I wouldn't go the graduate transfer route, but I'd probably grab a juco to compete with Lanning.

 

[StormnClone58]

Matty A. must not have been one of those situations.

Just as in basketball and football the assistant coaches do most of the recruiting and the HC is considered the closer ... As it was with williams - he was recruited by matt to play for fred ... Neither of them are at isu currently ... You cant put williams not sticking with isu on matt anymore than you can on fred ...

 

[RealisticCy]

Don't care where he recruits, just that he stays away from JUCO players and can develop 2 and 3 star high schooler's into good players that fit his system. Looks like his last 3 classes have only had around 1 JUCO each.

A bunch of JUCO's mean that the staff can't take a high school kid and make him better, so they farm that out and bring in players who are here for 2 years and don't give a crap about ISU or the football program. Give me 25 recruits that have 5 years to work their ***** off for the guys next to them and earn playing time.

I agree that a lot of our best players on defense this year were JUCO transfers, but in my mind that is proof of how terrible CPR was at recruiting the high school level. Get them here, put on 20 pounds of muscle, teach them the system, and get 4 good years of contributions.

 

[IcSyU]

Why would we recruit a graduate player and put Lanning on the bench for another year?

We need depth behind Lanning, not a graduate transfer QB.

We need to win. If a graduate transfer is better than Lanning you sign him. Lanning was the leader of an offense which only plays a half of football. Some of that is because of the coaches in charge, some of that is because of a lack of talent.

Don't care where he recruits, just that he stays away from JUCO players and can develop 2 and 3 star high schooler's into good players that fit his system. Looks like his last 3 classes have only had around 1 JUCO each.

A bunch of JUCO's mean that the staff can't take a high school kid and make him better, so they farm that out and bring in players who are here for 2 years and don't give a crap about ISU or the football program. Give me 25 recruits that have 5 years to work their ***** off for the guys next to them and earn playing time.

I agree that a lot of our best players on defense this year were JUCO transfers, but in my mind that is proof of how terrible CPR was at recruiting the high school level. Get them here, put on 20 pounds of muscle, teach them the system, and get 4 good years of contributions.

It would be ridiculously idiotic for ISU to not take JUCOs. You're going to miss on some positions inevitably...plug those holes with the best talent you can find regardless of where it comes from (assuming it isn't a felon obviously). Win now and the future will take care of itself.

 

[Cyclone1985]

Why would we recruit a graduate player and put Lanning on the bench for another year?

We need depth behind Lanning, not a graduate transfer QB.

You serious Clark? This team needs good players, regardless of the position and regardless of who currently is #1 on the depth chart.

 

[Cyclone1985]

Didn't Chiz take some of his recruits along with him when he left? I don't think ISU signed all the guys we had committed that year, but it's possible they went elsewhere...

He tried getting Leonard Johnson, KO and a couple others to follow him -- based on the way he left, they didn't want much to do with him.

 

[isuforlife]

Why would we recruit a graduate player and put Lanning on the bench for another year?

We need depth behind Lanning, not a graduate transfer QB.

is Lanning a Big 12 QB?

 

[dualthreat]

It's not uncommon for coaches to bring recruits with them, especially when they take a new job that'd be considered a promotion. Briles brought RG3 with him from Houston to Baylor.

Actually, Briles brought in Kevin Kolb from the high school he coached at (Stephenville) to Houston. He helped himself out by getting 8 years of quality qb play right out of the gate with those 2 guys.

 

[TNT]

is Lanning a Big 12 QB?

That is the biggest question going into next season.

ISU needs to figure out who will be starting at QB an OL, then we will know what kind of team we will have. If ISU is solid at those positions next year, then a bowl game wont be much of a question...it will be what bowl will we be going to?

 

[Tazzels]

There are 4-5 players from Toledo's verbal list that could be quality starters in Big12. I don't know how the admissions for Academics compare between the 2. But they are all Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan guys who he out recruited Western Michigan, Temple, Miami Ohio, Central Michigan to get. Difficult to sell Iowa State and Big 12 in these areas but we will see.