Someone posted a interesting article about Harvard and Yale paying their FB teams back in those days.
Texas & Oklahoma leaving in 2024, period.
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Someone posted a interesting article about Harvard and Yale paying their FB teams back in those days.
It is reassuring to know that we shouldn't have to get G5's anymore IMO. I don't really have an issue with the ones we added because of their markets.
I didn't say they're better than half the pac. For one Oregon, Washington, Stanford,Cal,and Utah aren't coming to the big12 because they don't want to. OSU and WSU aren't wanted by the conference. That leaves the 2 Arizona schools and Colorado. I'm saying SDSU is worth mentioning if those 3 are. Whole thing stinks in my opinion.
They may not want to leave now, but things change. The Big 12 can stay at 12 schools if we want. For the first time in this modern realignment era we aren't in a position where we have to expand to survive and need to pick the least worst expansion candidates. Going forward we only expand if/when it makes sense. Personally I'm not totally sold on the Arizona schools or Colorado but any of them are orders of magnitude better than San Diego State.
Cal and Stanford, the latter to a lesser degree, coupled with Utah due to BYU being in, all three bring little to the B12 which should be pursuing UofA, ASU, Oregon, and UW. Three of those four are flagship universities. The state of California is lost to the B10.
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Do you live in SD? Because then I would get why you would want them. Otherwise they are worthless.
Hindsight being 20/20, I wish we would have added BYU and Cincinnati and stopped at 10 schools. Then we could go right to 16 with the four corner schools plus Oregon and Washington if Yormark managed to attract them.
Even the PAC doesn’t want to stay at 10. They would just add SDSU and Houston and probably be fine. SMU being one of their best options is their big problem.
Oregon, Washington and utah might not want to join the Big12 but they might not have an option. It’s either Big12 or zombie pac12 with a horrific media deal.
Oregon and Washington may be what crushes the PAC. They know they aren’t getting a good deal so they want unequal revenue sharing. They could very likely force some pac schools out to a better life(and more money) in the Big12, and maybe Utah sticks around with them. They will make more money than all the new additions and have an easy path to the playoffs.
Yeah. In the meantime, Kansas State needs to get back to their rightful place at the bottom of the conference.
Oregon and Washington could very easily become the OU and UT of the P12. They want extra money and the special treatment that they think they should get, or much like the two former B12 schools, they will start with the garbage "without us, this whole league would get nothing from TV!" and "You other schools owe us for not leaving."
When this starts the four corners schools will look for something that the B12 schools never really had, a safe landing zone to leave the conference.
Let the carnage begin.
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Just imagine if the IVY schools ever decided that it would be fun to outbid ("out-NIL") the SEC and B10 for the top 200 FB players for a few years.
There's a number of G5's Id rather take than Cal TBH
Exactly. For the PAC, the $64M question is can they make UW and UO happy enough in terms of unequal revenue sharing without pushing the "middle class" (AZ, ASU, UU, maybe CU) into the arms of the Big12? WSU and OSU will do whatever to make it work, and Stanford and Cal probably don't really gaf either way.
If they can (on the backs of WSU, Cal, and OSU taking a reduced share - plus maybe a couple adds like SMU and SDSt that will happily take a smaller share) - then the PAC will survive a while. Heck, maybe they could even lose some of that middle class, and add a couple more G5s with reduced shares, but what a conference that would be... two titans and a bunch of pygmies.
This all assumes they can get a deal worth enough to make ANYONE happy. If that fails and they get an offer of like $25M (the latest number rumored) then the Big12 even has a shot at UO and UW, plus any others the Big12 might want. The smaller the media deal, the more unequal the revenue share has to be, and the less stable the whole thing is. And if they could have got $40M per, it would have happened by now.
I think the odds are more likely 4 teams jump to the Big12 than not. But then, I have been wrong a lot about expansion, so wtf do I know?
