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Tornado man

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I think they should start a donation page just targeted towards this project and see how much the cyclonenation can raise. I know a lot of alumni who are really excited about starting this project and we can raise some serious money if people know what they are donating to exactly.
If a design was approved, an architect's rendering published, and a mock-up of it placed in the Jacobson Building for the public to view, donations would flood in.
 

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If a design was approved, an architect's rendering published, and a mock-up of it placed in the Jacobson Building for the public to view, donations would flood in.

Sometimes I wonder if he is just waiting for us to get 7 or 8 wins and to just reveal it right after the season when everyone is super excited. People would go nuts and throw their money at it. Me included.
 

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Forget parking and the gardens. If it gets the SEZ done now, I volunteer to drive the bulldozer through Rieman myself.
 

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The parking problem is more then just larger crowds from bowling in the SEZ.

JP did an interview a couple weeks ago on one of the local radio stations. He talked about the expansion project. He mentioned needing a new practice field close to the training center. Most other programs have 2 or 3 outdoor practice fields with different surfaces in addition to their indoor fields. We only have one full sized field. The practice field south of G7 is not very useful because of the distance from the training center. There isn't room to put in another full sized one with out losing parking and impacting Reiman Gardens.

Definitely a big jigsaw puzzle with a lot of moving parts. I think the current leadership wants the stadium complex to be a showplace. Something to be used as marketing tool and give a great first impression of the University.

I would like someting poured in concrete that is a bold statement that we are the flagship University for the state of Iowa.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if he is just waiting for us to get 7 or 8 wins and to just reveal it right after the season when everyone is super excited. People would go nuts and throw their money at it. Me included.

One of the last interviews Pollard gave about the SEZ he basically said he wanted us to win more consistently before expanding. I'm paraphrasing but it was something like "the level of fan support we're getting is greater than the results on the field" He was basically saying if we don't win more then the fan enthusiasm might fall back down to the Mac era. To me it sounds like he's buying time for the university to get their issues figured out. If we went back to the Mac level of winning most of the games that we should, losing some that we shouldn't, and almost never winning the games that we shouldn't I could see fan support falling off a bit. But with the standard Rhoads upset special every year we could retain fan support at this current level of play.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if he is just waiting for us to get 7 or 8 wins and to just reveal it right after the season when everyone is super excited. People would go nuts and throw their money at it. Me included.

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You would think with the way transportation is going in this country all of our engineers should be working on this anyway. :rolleyes:

2 miles of railroad would cost about 3-5 million to build using new materials. The train would cost a substantial amount and would probably require someone willing to donate the thing. The SEZ is looking like a 75 million dollar project last time I saw anyone throw a number at it. I never said it made the most sense. Far from it, just that if they want to maintain the current setup of the area around Jack Trice this could be an option.
You have the start of a good idea. Scrap the rails, they are a boat anchor that only pays off with high traffic. Repair the bridge do some better base work and make it a heavy duty bike trail. On game day you use small tractors to pull trailers with seats like they have at the state fair.
 

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One of the last interviews Pollard gave about the SEZ he basically said he wanted us to win more consistently before expanding. I'm paraphrasing but it was something like "the level of fan support we're getting is greater than the results on the field" He was basically saying if we don't win more then the fan enthusiasm might fall back down to the Mac era. To me it sounds like he's buying time for the university to get their issues figured out. If we went back to the Mac level of winning most of the games that we should, losing some that we shouldn't, and almost never winning the games that we shouldn't I could see fan support falling off a bit. But with the standard Rhoads upset special every year we could retain fan support at this current level of play.

Everything I hear from Pollard makes me think exactly that, he is buying time because he wants to make sure we don't bankrupt ourselves on this project. Hopefully the team forces his hand and the money works itself out.
 

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whatever they do please please please put a pedestrian bridge over University and work out a deal with the city to allow open containers in the right-of-way.
 

theshadow

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whatever they do please please please put a pedestrian bridge over University

Tunnel. Otherwise you have a bridge from nowhere to nowhere 98% of the year.

Missouri's bridge makes sense because it connects to their other athletics facilities, including practice venues for football.
 

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Do the lots at the Towers and New RCA get full on game days? Can either/both lots be used by the AD as official gameday permit-parking? Seems like there is room for them to be expanded by a few rows to add parking. Both are close enough.
 

cytech

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Tunnel. Otherwise you have a bridge from nowhere to nowhere 98% of the year.

Missouri's bridge makes sense because it connects to their other athletics facilities, including practice venues for football.


Isn't University a make shift Levy? Putting a tunnel under it would kind of defeat that point.

Also to the person that mentioned how we only have one practice field near the training facility, that field is a minimum of at least 1.5 football fields if not 2 fields back to back.
 

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Because of the angle of the current upper deck. If we connected them with their current angle, the new SEZ upper deck would be about 40 yards away from the back of the endzone.

Basic geometry
I'm no engineer, so how did West Virginia do it? They weren't connecting upper decks, but it looks like they made the appropriate angle adjustments to make everything fit together.
 

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There is no way the first phase of the SEZ would increase capacity to 70,000 plus. That would be extremely aggressive. There will probably be about 20,000 additionally physical seats, but obviously the hillsides are lost so the capacity would only go up about 8,000 at absolute most IMO.

Also, parking should not be an issue. It will get taken care of. It isn't like the project will be stopped due to lack of parking. That seems ridiculous to me.


I think what he is saying is that it is one thing that needs to be considered. If they are going to do it then it needs to be big time, simple as that.

Also if the south endzone/pressbox gets done then I think we need a third deck on the east side.:jimlad: sort of
 

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Isn't University a make shift Levy? Putting a tunnel under it would kind of defeat that point.

Also to the person that mentioned how we only have one practice field near the training facility, that field is a minimum of at least 1.5 football fields if not 2 fields back to back.

Yes, but if the water gets to the stage it did a few years ago, it doesn't really matter because it flows over part of University anyways and comes from the Hilton area.
However, if you look at this picture, isn't most of the water contained within that blue line area where Squaw creek is? If that's the case University and S 16th St are your main levees. So, we could essentially put a tunnel on the other side of S 16th St (where the red line is).

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Mtneer's stadium, while of the same general design, has steeper stands and as a result the bowling in can be done more easily. Trice would curve outward much farther on the south end as a result.
 

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I'm no engineer, so how did West Virginia do it? They weren't connecting upper decks, but it looks like they made the appropriate angle adjustments to make everything fit together.
It's easier to connect the lower bowl because you can make the corners (where the new EZ connect with the side stands) as sharp as a turn as you want. You can't do that with the upper deck, otherwise it wouldn't line up with the bottom deck, since the upper and lower decks are set at different angles.
An engineer can correct me if I'm wrong.
 

cytech

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Yes, but if the water gets to the stage it did a few years ago, it doesn't really matter because it flows over part of University anyways and comes from the Hilton area.
However, if you look at this picture, isn't most of the water contained within that blue line area where Squaw creek is? If that's the case University and S 16th St are your main levees. So, we could essentially put a tunnel on the other side of S 16th St (where the red line is).

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I was thinking of the tunnel from the G7 lot perspective. It could possibly be doable from the student lot though.